this is skate in 2003
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- lee_b0
i'm sure it will fail. i've been thinking about all these new dunks aimed at skaters nike have created (with some decent collaborations). many have already sold out to sneaker collecters everywhere as they were on limited releases, but i'm pretty certain i haven't seen any none-nike sponsored skaters rockin the dunks.
this is just from where i'm standing though.
- boyintrnet0
Is someone is gonna like the shoes then they will buy the shoes, if your stupid enough not to buy a shoe u like cause it's made by nike then thats pretty stupid.
- lee_b0
is it stupid...
there's more to nike than all those pretty colours and soles filled with air you know.
- pseudonimrod0
I don't like the fact that Nike is trying to enter the world of skateboarding.
But I understand why - $.
I doubt they give two shits about skaters. I doubt they give two shits about the sport.
I think it's fair not to buy a Nike shoe, even if it is a decent quality shoe (made by an eight year old).
- unknown0
I don't have anything against good shoes. I think I have something against a company like nike spoiling an industry that has been generally built by people who love the activity not some mega corp that want to suddenly profit from it.
- unknown0
I'm sure DVS is also guilty of sweatshop labor none the less...
- jillborn0
are all three models specifically for skating? the e-cue wouldn't last but a few weeks with the material they use.
- CAJTBr0
re lilbabyarm:
"you ain't a real skater".
i didn't say i was an 'on and off skater', i said i'd 'skated on and off'. it may seem like splitting hairs, but you tear some ligaments or snap an achilles and see if you do another '21 years straight'.
in any case, i wouldn't go around calling myself 'a skater' anyway. i skateboard for fun, not because i get to act as if it makes me something special, or lets me claim membership of some social group. i read a couple of books a week, but i don't tell people "i'm a real reader".
i obviously annoyed you by thinking that you didn't know what you were talking about. i'd apologise, but taking your first post on its own, that's what it looked. - i'm glad you qualified all your points.
i didn't claim nike was 'legit'. i said that they have industry credibility. whether you buy credibility, or gain it 'legitimately', you have it either way. and if you look into the business of any shoe company out there (with one or two exceptions), you can claim that they're not 'legit' because they sponsor band X or advertise in magazine X or company X has a 49% share in them.
i'm not going to get into your skatepark argument, because i didn't say anything for or against them in the first place.
as for teams not having rules or coaches. i know a couple of team managers who've thrown people off for breaking rules. every team is different. just like in football or rock climbing or pool.
'what person would turn down a shitload of cash?'
you're right. but you're dissing nike for the same thing you're excusing pro skaters. nike look at skateboarding and see dollar signs, but so do 90% of the other shoe companies out there.
and i don't understand why people are acting like this is some new campaign. they're released some new shoes, but they've had skateboarding ads for about 5 years now and even a few tv commercials.
you can say that nike are shit for a lot of reasons, but trying to make money out of skateboarding is what most of the skate industry is about _now_. if you want to put that all onto nike's back you can. but what about adidas, vans, sole tech, etc? are they the good guys?
- huphtur0
lil: DVS is gonna start selling to Pacsun in march. whats yur opinion about that?
- unknown0
what is PACSUN? curious.
DVS as far as I know was started by some of the skaters behind 118. I have no problems with skaters making money off of skateboarding as long as they don't ruin skateboarding for what it is. Although I'm curious if DVS is still controlled by skaters.
Nike is a bunch of people who don't give a shit about skateboarding period. they were'nt there to help build skateboarding. they didn't care about it till it was popular and their involvement means that they will be marketing their product (as we see in that wack ass website) in the wrong way and attracting the wrong crowd.
skateboarding is what it is because kids got involved as an alternative to having to deal with dumb ass jocks. it's not something that has traditionally attracted much attention outside of itself.
nike has a lot of power and if they infiltrate they could turn the meaning of skateboarding into something that it has not traditionally been. I guess it's headed that way anyways. I want to preserve what skateboarding means. I already cringe when I hear see some idiotic NBC Xgames special on TV. to me the best thing about skateboarding is that it's a grass rtoots thing.
- unknown0
I'm not against DVS distributing their product. I'm against some corp that had nothing to do with skateboarding, buying their way in to exploit, specifically, skateboarding. I only care about skateboarding in that way really. like I wouldn't care if nike moved in on hockey or fruit boots.
I don't know why. I guess I just want skateboarding preserved so that my kid can have the option to enjoy it for what it is if he/she so chooses.
I guess I'm just getting old and bitter. fuck it.
- modulate0
have to agree with CAJTBr.
If anyone has been to Tokyo or NYC (where i'm at), the dunks are essentially the offical shoe of the under 30 years olds.
Nike has seen COUNTLESS companies (skate & non-skate) rip off the dunk. they might as well cash in on them. they invented it in the first place.also, virtually everything you have on is probably made in southeast asia. just a fact. adidas is as bad as nike, banana republic/gap etc. nike got hated on because they were making the most coin. thats all.
skating is a jock sport now anyway. I read some tidbit that there are more kids skating than playing baseball or something crazy like that. It stopped being punk about 15 years ago anyway. but if you still like to do it, then who cares?
yes, savier essentially is a nike company. they have a relationship much like a "indy" label does with a major record company.
- locolito0
Man, when I was 14 and skating there's no way I would have skated in Nikes... In fact I don't think I've ever owned a pair.
Whatever.... the heart of skateboarding is still going to be high school kids skating around, trying to do tricks, smoking pot, and trying to get into girls pants. I don't think corporate marketing is going to change that.
It's like the commercialization of rock n roll. Yeah, there's a bunch of shit out there, but if you know what's what you find the good stuff.. like the Justin Timberlake.
he's hot...
- pseudonimrod0
I've always loved the canvas Chuck Taylor Converse All * Stars.
Best shoes ever.
- locolito0
dude, i've always loved that haircut of yours!!
what's that a reverse mohawk, died black and tipped in red....
nike could never market you...at least for a couple of years
- unknown0
I actually skated in those CT's for a minute but they ripped too quickly from ollies. I had to switch to cons or nike jordans ironiclly. then suede vans.
I'm definately not one of those old school punker guys. i really feel like skating has exposed me toi all kinds of shit because all kinds of people skate... except dumb ass jocks. eh, fuck it... skateboarding is different for everyone. if nike wants to capitalize, I think skateboarding can survive it... hopefully.
- pseudonimrod0
Thanks locoito.
Yeah...it's kind of a reverse mohawk, I guess.
It began as a tuft of hair up top, beginning at the crown, and I kept it like that for a couple of years. I called it a mohawk for lack of a better word, but it was really just a tuft of hair. I never spiked it or anything.
I got bored one day and shaved out the middle.
It's dyed red - the dark brown brown is my natural hair coming through.
- locolito0
yeah, i think CT's were about the worst thing to skate in.. They made the balls of my feet really hurt. the best that i skated in were ES's... really padded, like pillows on your feet
- pseudonimrod0
Yeah. Vans were cool too. I had pink and black. Tres chic.
Yeah, Chucks tore through way to quick, and had no ankle support, but I loved them.
So light and airy...felt like you weren't wearing shoes at all.
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