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• winnie_the_shit

  A thought..

  A total right to bear arm is just as extreme as no right to bear arms.

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:40 p.m. – Permalink

• styleplus

  @winnie_the_shit:
  you're confused. Hitler dis-armed the population as a primary directive.

  population dis-armament is one of the first steps toward fully enslaving that population

  for proof you ask?:
  http://74.125.47.132/search?q=ca…

  • this isn't bloody rocket science. I shouldn't have to fish for a PDF to explain this simple shit– styleplus1/3

    so every country that doesn't allow it's citizens to prop up the arms industry is full of slaves?– lowimpakt2/3

    @lowimpakt
    . . . you don't know the truth of your words.– styleplus3/3

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:41 p.m. – Permalink

• designbot

  what would you consider "A total right to bear arm" though?

  It's not like in American you get a gun with your Happy Meal :)

  • because history never repeats itself, right?– designbot

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:42 p.m. – Permalink

• lowimpakt

  and i love the dissonance between the lofty misty-eyed statements from history and the cold facts of today.

  • because history never repeats itself, right?– designbot1/5

    please expound– version32/5

    you're historical figures lived in a different age and different context and couldn't foresee the damage their document set forth.– lowimpakt3/5

    forth– lowimpakt4/5

    lowimpakt is naive about history and its ability to repeat itself– bliznutty5/5

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:43 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  I understand styleplus, and I read that and I see what you mean.

  If the right to bear arms isn't even, and total, and for everyone, then that gives one group of people more power over the other. Right? and then they can be enslaved? right?

  I get this. I agree with that sentiment.

  I am not american, don't own a gun, and have no interest in guns.. so what may seem obvious to you, is a little foreign to me.

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:50 p.m. – Permalink

• version3

  i still believe that if laws were not formed by our government to offset said "militias" this country would march on itself, not that we would know what to do but an exodus towards dc with a bunch of dedicated citizens could remove those in power manipulating our countries "power" do you sincerely believe winnie shit is mad at all 300 million of us or is it the result of our governments treatment of it's population and the skewed media coverage of said issues?

  • "power" should be "influence"– version31/2

    i'm sure our "enslaved freedoms" has something to do with their success– version32/2

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:51 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  Ok,

  How do you teach people with the ubiquitous right to bear arms, that using those arms as a means of solving their problems is wrong?

  • *and differences– winnie_the_shit1/2

    you still don't get it do you ?– bliznutty2/2

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 12:58 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  How do you teach a child, giving a gun from an early age, and who is told it is their constitutional right to defend themselves from oppression, that the bullies and mean people at school don't deserve to be shot and also have the right to live?

  • Or how do you teach him not to accidentally blow his brother's brains out?– BRNK1/2

    "value of life" this is what pets are for– version32/2

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:01 p.m. – Permalink

• BRNK

  Handguns are fucking bullshit. A handgun won't feed and it sure as shit won't keep you from being enslaved in some fantastical future dystopia. Are you going to fight a military power trying to enslave you with handguns? Come on. If we're ever enslaved by force, no amount of gun law leniency is going to tip the tides against a national army.

  I wish crazy gun-rights people would just admit the truth: They either feel the need to compensate for their tiny penis, are terrified of scary people of color or fantasize about being John Wayne.
  I'd also like to inject this into the conversation: Accidental shootings.

  • have you not seen a bugs life?– version3

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:02 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  Where do you draw the line and how do you know when the government has officially oppressed the people and is now the time to form militias?

  How do you get everyone to agree to this? And, in the case of the above scenario.. Who leads?

  • "not that we would know what to do" ;)– version31/3

    How could a civilian militia possibly have enough money and arms to stand up? IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.– BRNK2/3

    There are enough veterans among the citizenry that would be able to muster and train a decent fighting force.– ipissexcellence3/3

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:07 p.m. – Permalink

• ipissexcellence

  I teach firearms safety to kids during the summer, I own an Assault Rifle, handguns, and see nothing wrong with it. I have never had to shoot a person, nor have my other firearm owning friends or summer camp students.

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:07 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  So in a society where all have the right to bare arms, shouldn't all who wish to exercise their right to bare arms have right-to-life ethics training? Gun safety training?

  Shouldn't all who wish to exercise their right to bare arms be licensed as a responsible gun owner?

  I mean.. you need to be licensed to drive a car.
  So you know, that everyone driving their car around is at least basically trained in the art of driving.

  Just saying.. what do you think of that?

  • guns registered in my name, as i have no criminal record, i have earned the right– version31/3

    so criminals cannot register their guns? or have the right to own them?– winnie_the_shit2/3

    felony offenders can not legally own/purchase guns– version33/3

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:20 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  So people with criminal records are a sub-class of americans without the right to bare arms?

  • Yes– ipissexcellence1/3

    their actions lost them the right– version32/3

    convicted felons only– BattleAxe3/3

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:23 p.m. – Permalink

• ipissexcellence

  I think firearms safety is something that could be easily implemented on a mass scale. But to require individual firearms owners to specially licensed to just own a firearm is wrong. For me to conceal carry requires a special license, which you must have training or military experience to obtain.

  • training = weekend class at your local shooting range 100 or so bucks and to pass a test– version31/2

    true, i didn't have to take the mock class due to military experience... it's still something.– ipissexcellence2/2

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:24 p.m. – Permalink

• winnie_the_shit

  So a person who served their state mandated punsihment and is now free, absolved of their crimes, is a sub-class of American, below all others, who now has no constitutional rights to own a gun.

  Are they enslaved and controlled by the master-class of Americans without criminal records?

  • or to vote– version31/6

    Yes, why is this all so foreign to you.– ipissexcellence2/6

    AS ITS A PERSON WITH HIGHER RISK.– akrokdesign3/6

    But criminals obtain weapons anyways.– winnie_the_shit4/6

    and they will be able to obtain weapons even if they are banned. Which is why gun bans won't work.– ipissexcellence5/6

    exactly– version36/6

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:30 p.m. – Permalink

• BattleAxe

  it was also written that Colored folks, and women could not vote now owe land , but guess what some people actually did something about it so, if you do not like it do something about it

  • *nor owe land– BattleAxe1/4

    *nor "own" land maybe? ;)– version32/4

    maybe we should write-out "freedom of speech" too?– identity3/4

    good luck with that– BattleAxe4/4

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:32 p.m. – Permalink

• akrokdesign

  ok. if guns works. why is there no winners in wars.

  • There are winners. This Utopian idea that the world will be better without guns is wild.– ipissexcellence

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:33 p.m. – Permalink

• GeorgesII

  america you're the last country that can defend itself,
  don't ever give up your guns.

  • How do you all feel about the Swiss?– ipissexcellence1/3

    GREAT watches!– identity2/3

    can't front on those knives– version33/3

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:34 p.m. – Permalink

• GeorgesII

  you don't always need gun to have power
  

  

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:48 p.m. – Permalink

• version3

  cien

  

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  Dog-earMar 11, 09, 1:49 p.m. – Permalink