Blair - Immigration
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- Jaline
http://www.suntimes.com/news/wor…
"Prime Minister Tony Blair said Friday it was the duty of all immigrants to integrate into British society, stoking a simmering debate over religious tolerance and cultural assimilation in the country."
If any leader in Canada did this they'd have to be extremely desperate because it's the kiss of death.
- Jaline0
http://commentisfree.guardian.co…
haha, I just realized I started another thread with a 'bl'...
- mpfree0
He's spot on.
Integrate or get out.
Well, whether most immigrants like it or not their kids always integrate.
Neener! Neener! :P
- Jaline0
It's true about the kids, but I doubt everyone's just going to start listening to him now.
Some people believe they are just desperate to deal with the terrorist attacks on Britain...
Also, immigrants produce more babies so that's another ratio that won't change unless people start having more babies.
The thing with Canada is that we are known for being multicultural so it'd be weird to say what Blair said here. I do agree with some of his points, but we're already known for not having a clear national identity.
- phatlee0
Yesterday afternoon I had a Muslim lady spit at my feet. All I was doing was walking home from the Supermarket. Once I asked her why she did it, she went and did it again. I love that, an immigrant making me feel like shit in my own country.
- jamble0
England has gone to the dogs under Labour anyway.
I think he's probably right to say it, I wouldn't expect to move to a foreign country and not fit in with their laws and customs so I don't see why Johnny Foreigner should move here and wear ninja costumes to work and claim loads of benefits without even bothering to learn a little English.
- paraselene0
fuck you all. this place won't straighten out until we've got sharia law.
- soda0
England has gone to the dogs under Labour anyway.
I think he's probably right to say it, I wouldn't expect to move to a foreign country and not fit in with their laws and customs so I don't see why Johnny Foreigner should move here and wear ninja costumes to work and claim loads of benefits without even bothering to learn a little English.
jamble
(Dec 12 06, 00:51)please tell me you are being ironic there and not just making huge sweaping statements based on pathetic racist stereotypes?
- Cantona0
I hope you spat on her back, phatlee.
- phatlee0
I hope you spat on her back, phatlee.
Cantona
(Dec 12 06, 01:11I thought that, but knowing my luck I would have been seen and labeled as a racist!!
- kezza_20
Couldn't agree more. If you don't like it here fuck off.
- UndoUndo0
balirs out early next year Jaline, then we are into a state of brown, literally
- paraselene0
anyhoo, i don't intend to assimilate. it's an eggplant, goddamnit!
- Bluejam0
blair is a dinosaur of a middle aged white man whose marry poppins fantasy is no where near life's reality.
- kelpie0
anyhoo, i don't intend to assimilate. it's an eggplant, goddamnit!
paraselene
(Dec 12 06, 01:44)ZOMG!
layered with meaning...
- rafalski0
I am an immigrant and I remember an outrage when UK govt. wanted people to pass a test before obtaining citizenship. What a load of bollocks. It is obvious to me - you want to join in, make a slight effort, learn the lingo at least. Yes, it is your right not to speak English after 10 years of stay, but hey, it's you who declares himself as a 5th class citizen and don't be surprised to be treated as such.
Jaline, just because 200000 of my compatriots came to Ireland, that doesn't give me a right to install mini-Poland here, saying "hey, Irish, you're multicultural now, shut up and be nice". Obviously the country is evolving and I am being a part of the process, but I have no right to demand anything.
That all doesn't have too much to do with Blair's speech, he's just looking for a way to control muslim radicals. But I agree that if someone comes to plant mines, should be given a boot right away. Some western systems are so easily abused.
- paraselene0
i am so going to shout that on the streets the next time i'm in ireland:
"hey, Irish, you're multicultural now, shut up and be nice".
brilliant!
:D
- rafalski0
Well, para, that kinda sounds like you will come with a visit, doesn't it?
I can't forget Kuz's face when I tried to integrate him using the Guinness.. Still, he was very nice (and shut up too) to have drunk half a pint of what he apparently hated :)
- paraselene0
i most certainly will come for a visit at some point. who knows when, though!
kuz had no choice. he was skint as usual. beggars, choosers, etc...
;)
- soda0
Blimey.
I go away for a while and Newstoday becomes the Daily Mail...
- paraselene0
Blimey.
I go away for a while and Newstoday becomes the Daily Mail...
soda
(Dec 12 06, 03:11)//it's all these polish people around nowadays. they're so conservative.//
the issues surrounding immigration and assimilation aren't nearly so cut and dried when you stray from the question of language, though.
look at the huge amount of controversy surrounding the new mosque proposal. hard to believe that london of all places would turn down a privately funded state-of-the-art cultural centre...