Police handcuff 5-yr old girl
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- iDp0
Dear TNDAP,
Youre a racist.
Cheers,
iDp
- todelete__20
Dear TNDAP,
Read iDp's post..
Cheers,
'jerk' kOna
- SteveJobs0
"if they used a plastic zip tie instead of metal handcuffs, would it have less of a negative stigma?"
yes - especially if they were colored toy-like ties. look, if you're going to 'think of the children', then do it to the fullest extent. these cases happen all the time and are the result of numerous reasons. if you want to analyse those reasons and search for the root problem(s), go ahead. and while you're working on a solution that might help avoid a heaping 15% of similar cases, something will still have to be done to restrain these kids, to calm them and keep them from disrupting others.
but one thing is for sure, you don't let them sit there and throw their tantrums. the problem will just get worse, and as an authority figure, you're setting the wrong example.
and for all you parents out there who are getting your diapers in a ruffle about putting this child in handcuffs, i admonish you to do your part, as uber-qualified parents, and adopt these problem children, so they can be raised properly and hopefully, one day, lead normal lives.
- Nac0
Dear TNDAP,
Read iDp's and Kona's post..
Cheers,
Anthony
- iDp0
Dear TNDAP,
Read Anthony's post and follow the instructions.
Cheers,
iDp
- todelete__20
hey steve. do you think if those colored toy like ties were also made entirely of sugar, so after they take them off when the kid has calmed down, the kid can eat them (cause they're just such a darn good tasting candy) that would also help?
where do i go to patent this idea? candy handcuff zip ties.
sounds like a winner to me.
- SteveJobs0
i don't know if you're tying to lighten the mood in this thread or trying to subtly voice your opinion... not sure you've been successfull either way tho...
- Nac0
Nac and blackmail,
I didn't say lock her in the office all day.
Also, the reason for calling her parents was basically to inform them of your desired actions (restraining her, calling the cops, etc).
You inform the parents so you protect yourself.
Any school has to do that to tread carefully when the subject of, guess what? lawsuits is a possibility.Sure, my saying she should be locked in the office might not be the best move, but I was thinking of that more of keeping teachers/the principal away from her and accusations of hitting her until you got the OK from the parents as to an agreed upon course of action.
mg33
(Apr 25 05, 07:16)
-----------------------------its not about just locking her up and making sure you are protecting herself...you need to make sure she doen't injure herself, thats whwere the lawsuits would come in.
Why the hell do you need to call parents to ask them how to do your job? If you are in a position of authority like polioce officer, or principle, as long as you abide by laws aren't you already given credit for making decisions.
And to whoever is starting the difference between white and black shit...shut the fuck up already, don't need to bring that shit in here..
oh one more...this thread is about an article...an issue that is being discussed over an incident, if you gotta bring peoples portfolio and work in here, then it just goes to show how weak minded you are in not being able to say something constructively instead of tossing mud at someones work.
Just because people argue, or disagree about anothers opinion, doesn't mean you need to toss shit, if you need to do that...then my parents have a dog in their backyard who needs its poop scooped.
- Nac0
omg, my spelling was horrible
*goes to look up engrish classes*
- mg330
"most of the replies in this thread are ignorant and coincidentally thier attitudes match their sucky work."
TNDAP, that was the dumbest thing anyone has ever said here.
Who are you?Oh yah, someone on my ignore list.
- Nac0
"most of the replies in this thread are ignorant and coincidentally thier attitudes match their sucky work."
TNDAP, that was the dumbest thing anyone has ever said here.
Who are you?Oh yah, someone on my ignore list.
mg33
(Apr 25 05, 08:59)
-----------------------------I'll drink to that
*looks for beer*
- todelete__20
i don't know if you're tying to lighten the mood in this thread or trying to subtly voice your opinion... not sure you've been successfull either way tho...
SteveJobs
(Apr 25 05, 08:51)
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i was offering you a red pill from my left hand and a blue pill from my right hand.you didn't take either. neo you are not.
- mg330
Nac,
Calling the parents would be a way of confirming what you plan to do.
Doesn't it seem to make sense to call the parents to say, "We're going to have your child handcuffed by cops because she is out of control and we feel this is our only option," to see if they agree, rather than doing so and running the risk of the parents filing a lawsuit (which is what's happening) against the school?
I guess I'm just looking at the school in terms of protecting itself, which is something we can all agree must be very difficult in this day and age.
- gruntt0
she was probably wacked out on skittles.
- Nac0
Nac,
Calling the parents would be a way of confirming what you plan to do.
Doesn't it seem to make sense to call the parents to say, "We're going to have your child handcuffed by cops because she is out of control and we feel this is our only option," to see if they agree, rather than doing so and running the risk of the parents filing a lawsuit (which is what's happening) against the school?
I guess I'm just looking at the school in terms of protecting itself, which is something we can all agree must be very difficult in this day and age.
mg33
(Apr 25 05, 09:03)
---------------------------I understand what you mean homie, and ya it would be a good idea in fact, but if it comes down to it, if the police, principle have nothing else they can do to restrain her other than to toss her in cuffs, than i see it more or less as they're gonna have to do whether or not the parents like it or not.
- todelete__20
to put it simply the video can go either way.
the cops/school: shows the kid was out of control and it was a last option.
parents: shows they handcuffed the child.
the outcome: hopefully you get a jury that isn't the 'a timeout in the corner works best' bullshit ideal and will rule in favor of the school. if not this opens the door for sue happy parents all over the country and really fucks the shit ouf of schools cause NOW what are they supposed to do? timeouts don't work. detention doesn't work. locking them in a room doesn't work. so you fucked them in more ways then one.
and the 'time out' parents wonder why the public school system won't work and their kids won't pay attention in class. it's cause the kids no they don't have to. fuck that.
you know why catholic schools work. rules to the hand and strict punishment.
oh. and to the dicks who are going to turn that last statement into a religion thread.
fuck off in advance.
- SteveJobs0
in such a litigous age, the school cannot be both an educational facility as well as a correctional one.
if a child is disruptive, and unable to function normally, it should be the guardians responsibility to see that the child gets the proper medical attention so thay they can return to school. if the guardian is not fit or is unable to fullfill their obligations, then the state would assume ownership of the child, and carry out these actions in their place.
- todelete__20
in such a litigous age, the school cannot be both an educational facility as well as a correctional one.
if a child is disruptive, and unable to function normally, it should be the guardians responsibility to see that the child gets the proper medical attention so thay they can return to school. if the guardian is not fit or is unable to fullfill their obligations, then the state would assume ownership of the child, and carry out these actions in their place.
SteveJobs
(Apr 25 05, 09:10)
++what fairy tale book did you read that out of? alice in america schooling wonderland? snow white and the seven school responsibilities, none of which are to deal with a problem child?
just curious.
- Nac0
in such a litigous age, the school cannot be both an educational facility as well as a correctional one.
if a child is disruptive, and unable to function normally, it should be the guardians responsibility to see that the child gets the proper medical attention so thay they can return to school. if the guardian is not fit or is unable to fullfill their obligations, then the state would assume ownership of the child, and carry out these actions in their place.
SteveJobs
(Apr 25 05, 09:10)
--------------------------the hell? you sure you read the right article brother? The parents weren't there, and the 'authorities' (not just talking about police) had to do something about the situation...and at what point did she need medical attention? or did i miss something?
- TNDAP0
Interesting, I consider myself a scientist/realist. I'm not a racist merely making an observation, funny how a few threads ago you're calling a five year old cunts and bitches now you're calling me a racist. You obviously do not know the meaning of the word so look it up a repost and kona you're still a jerk now you're a jerk that lacks individuality, lackey jerk.