Matrix = good or bad?
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- scarabin19
- so truemonospaced
- https://www.youtube.…sted
- yestimeless
- Sums it up wellGnash
- I’m beating a dead horse, but it’s a funny horsescarabin
- lol, well now I'm convinced I have to see it.garbage
- YupGuyFawkes
- I passed out watching the latest one ... gonna to give it another go this weekendatomholc
- Shouldn't the last one be where the butt is? I've heard it's very poopy.CyBrainX
- The last one is where it's drawn like shitmonospaced
- @Cy We need left / right chronology, the horse must move forward. Also have you ever drawn a horse face? Fucking impossible.garbage
- Making a sequel that isn’t shit is not impossible though.monospaced
- Well, they managed to pull it off.utopian
- kalkal3
All I could think was... all this time and this is the best plot they could come up with?
- I’m struggling with whether this qualifies as having a plot at all.monospaced
- YupGuyFawkes
- all I kept thinking while watching was "this is Buffy the vampire slayer quality cinematography and fight choreography intensity"timeless
- NBQ003
- you're damn rightsarahfailin
- I have a lot of time for the drinkerMrT
- nb4
Trans is fundamental to the technological singularity. It’s not required per se, but there will be no posthumanist future without transgender people.
- Acceptance of transgender lives as natural is just another step along the waynb
- Post human can be post gender.cannonball1978
- AQUTE-2
only a tranny could have done this and got away with it
- TERF them into a boeing engine.Brabo_Brabo
- Fuck off bobomonospaced
- scarabin3
It was a good movie. Apart from neo’s forced staccato delivery. And the cringe fight banter. Okay, apart from neo’s staccato delivery, the cringe fight banter and it trying to be everything for everyone and failing at most of it. And that stupid fist-bumping transformer sidekick who frankly i’m surprised wasn’t voiced by eddie murphy. Okay, so apart from the acting, the dialogue, and the characters, it was a blast. A blast from my ass. I mean past.
- Also, introducing new characters and plot lines two hours into the movie was an odd choice but what am i, a director?scarabin
- Good movie, lolNBQ00
- One of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Couldn’t even finish this sad parody of the series.monospaced
- There were entire plot points dedicated to how bad it would be to make Matrix 4, literally. And then they proved their point. Not meta, just terrible.monospaced
- Omg that... ‘here’s the new dozer guy and his unnecessary for-kids,who aren’t even this audience, babygroot-like sidekick...’prophetone
- ...in that moment I looked over at my teenage son and rolled my eyes into the next theatreprophetone
- In a nutshell if they deleted 1/3 of the stuff, so so much stuff, and refined the leftovers it would have been tight and greatprophetone
- Agreedscarabin
- wachowksy always puttin so much stuff in lately.. could be worse.neverscared
- Morpheus looked like a three’s company characterscarabin
- yuekit0
The Matrix (original one) was a fun B movie sci fi but not exactly a great film. One thing that is kind of funny is that the directors originally intended Neo to be played by Will Smith, while Morpheus was supposed to be played by Val Kilmer.
- I don't think Kilmer mentions that in his excellent "Val" biography movie.evilpeacock
- He turned down the Neo part, was then offered to play Morpheus and refused againspl33nidoru
- Matrix was damn amazing for its time - much more than a b movie.inteliboy
- "What If" casting decisions are fascinating. Bruce Lee could've been Rambo (Andre Vajna connection)Brabo_Brabo
- That's some high-end cinematography, VFX and action for a B movie.NBQ00
- I guess some people focus more on the visual effects. I'm talking about the acting and writing like mg33 said.yuekit
- It's a movie that was culturally influential but not a classic on the level of Blade Runner or other great sci fi,
Also lol @ Bruce Lee as Ramboyuekit
- robotinc24
I applaud this film. I went in with zero expectations and was still disappointed
- hahaprophetone
- lolGuyFawkes
- it´s a negative sum game.. like bitcoinneverscared
- lemmy_k3
BTW, I'm a little late to the thread, but I think Speed Racer was way better than it gets credit for. Nothing like it before.
- ^pango
- SR was definitely ahead of its time, possibly the only film that made me feel like I was watching something made in 2040.spl33nidoru
- Speed Racer was dope! Defo a classicPhanLo
- NBQ001
Can you believe Matrix 4 had a $200 million budget?
- Crikeyscarabin
- Did they use it to make Catrix videos instead of the movie?lemmy_k
- I would demand to get paid up front for this one after reading that script, too.monospaced
- nb6
Ok, just so I understand...
So like when someone says that they are “red-pilled” or that they “took the red pill”, what they’re saying is... that they have discovered themselves to be in the wrong body and are in the process of coming out as a transgender?
- hahahaha!PhanLo
- Yes if you want to ignore the plot of the movie. Sure.monospaced
- i never read it that way but i wouldn't be surprised if the director hinted at that. knowing both of them are trans now.pango
- I mean that’s what Lilly is saying, that it’s a metaphor for their transgender journey Am I wrong ?nb
- She said that. But the movie doesn’t back that up in my opinion. Even SHE doesn’t clarify how.monospaced
- Keanu said at his age he doesn't argue anymore, he says "Interesting". When the director put out the transgender thing after 20 years, he said "Interesting" ..coldarchon
- How would Keanu know more about it than Lily? He’s just an actor.nb
- Maybe they’re retconning it jk rowling style. Next week they’ll be into fishing and claim it was really about salmonscarabin
- If they want to show that it's about transgenderism, then explain how throughout the plot, scene by scene, this is the case. Please.monospaced
- But it's so weak, I can basically say the same about Freaky Friday, or any movie where someone is out of their element.monospaced
- They went out of their way to make Neo masculine, Trinity super sexualized, and so on. It just doesn't add up.monospaced
- "firm"Gucci
- Well shit. Wrong note.Gucci
- oey_oey-6
never saw it.
and really not interested.
- PhanLo2
The Matrix was a great movie at the time, it was a serious attempt at making a live action anime, mixed with a lot of western influences too.
It's also like a comic book superhero film too, Blade only came out in 98 and most other superhero film attempts were seen as cheesy.It definitely had an impact, especially in trenchcoat sales.
Also think how many wankers talk about getting red pilled all the fucking time.Still think Speed Racer is one of their best films.
- Do you think Speed Racer came close to a movie adaptation of the Wipeout game?grafician
- I don't remember any flying carsPhanLo
- Speed Racer is great on a big screen.sarahfailin
- Speed Racer was brilliant, visually!kaiyohtee
- Speed racer was an adaptation of the cartoon.monospaced
- autoflavour1
everything is a hologram anyway
- because of the decent pills they invented in the 90's.uan
- toemaas2
Didn’t both siblings come out as saying that it was a direct metaphor for their transgender journey? Pretty bridal liner considering they had 2 philosophers do a commentary on all 3 movies and not once did they bring up that concept. When you watch it now, it seems obvious.
- grafician-8
Actually the Animatrix short films fill some of the gaps...
Also with the Matrix films the Wachowskis will forever matter because they opened the door to what is truly possible in a way - conceptually, story wise, execution wise.
For example, Christopher Nolan only had Memento in 2000 a year after the first Matrix - then after a decade jumped to Inception and then after another decade to Tenet - to say these films were not inspired by the Matrix "recipe" is an understatement.
In a way, the first Matrix film has more in common with Inception and Tenet than with the rest of the trilogy.
Other movies by the Wachowskis were also intriguing and I count them amongst the most inspiring directors in cinema.
- I liked em.PhanLo
- @PhanLo Some of the most inventive minds in cinema I should say. Can't wait for the 4th part.grafician
- If you guys downvote, why not instead offer a solid argument? Or don't I couldn't care less, but hating ppl on the internets it's rather daftgrafician
- lolmonospaced
- you caremonospaced
- Actually I don't, but it's odd downvoting with such conviction on a website that's not reddit...grafician
- seems like you caremonospaced