2020 Election Predictions
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- cherub0
Oh and I forgot the wild card: a foreign nation could do something stupid, completely apart from Trump.
- Sure can. With the prospect of Biden winning... good luck Taiwan.IRNlun6
- Taiwan is delusional if they think Trump would stand up to China if they made a military move to take the island...jonny_quest_lives
- He likes to talk tough about standing up to China but his long term business dealings say otherwise.jonny_quest_lives
- Ask the Syrian Kurds what Trump thinks of allies.jonny_quest_lives
- His administrations actions have already proven to be more aggressive that past administrations. Including recently approving arms sales to Taiwan.IRNlun6
- ... and the impending Kurd genocide never materialized.IRNlun6
- He pulled out of the TPP, giving China free reign to muscle everyone around. He has done nothing to protect South Korea, quite the contrary. Same with Japan.zarkonite
- He's been talking though but his actions have undermined the usa's influence everywhere. S.Arabia killed one your journalists and he shrugged, total disaster.zarkonite
- $1.8 Billion arms sale to Taiwan... a couple phone calls and he sent Alex Azar to Taiwan... big whoop. He also refused to increase trade with Taiwan.jonny_quest_lives
- For fear of derailing a trade deal with China... Trump looks at a place like Taiwan on a transactional basis... He won't put up a fight for it. Again...jonny_quest_lives
- He gives two shits for historical allies.jonny_quest_lives
- Ramanisky20
Rick Santorum Sauce on CNN saying "Democrats need to give Republicans, including Trump, time and space to work through their feelings about losing."
Oh that’s fucking rich.
- dbloc3
- and flush your golden toilets. Commence the pant-soilings!CyBrainX
- So funny.monospaced
- Lol!noRGB
- Bennn0
Nevada officials just says they need 2 more days to count. And on the news they said all votes will be counted for November 12th ...
6 mores days of waiting
- With all the croupiers and card counters in vegas you'd think they could do this in an hour or two.zarkonite
- they just explained how long it takes with the votes by mail, many stepsBennn
- i thought they said they'd be announcing votes at 11 today? ... was waiting to see (7pm here i think)kingsteven
- It isn’t their counting ability. It’s when they expect to finish receiving the valid ballots. Some come from overseas and such.monospaced
- You're right there's always hope: https://www.bloomber…zarkonite
- err that was for the thread before...zarkonite
- neverscared1
I mean this is going to be the greatest GIF of all time
- neverscared1
- Magnificent Meat HelmetRamanisky2
- Gross. You can actually see where the dye kinda pooled in small cracks.monospaced
- zarkonite0
I'm worried about how badly the democrats have done at the state level. 2021 is when the states re-jerrymander everything and it's just going to tilt things further for the republicans for the next election since they'll control most of the state legislatures.
I hope Biden/Kamala do something about that because it's gonna be game over pretty soon if this keeps up IMHO.
- nb1
FULL report:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/…TL;DR here:
PA:
Even a favorable Supreme Court ruling would do little for Mr. Trump. Fewer than 30,000 ballots have been added to the state’s tally since election night. It’s possible that some of these ballots wouldn’t be subject to legal challenge, and might have been received on Election Day, either in the mail or in the drop boxes, and just weren’t processed until later. Even if all 30,000 were invalidated, Mr. Biden’s advantage would withstand those losses.
At this point, the only serious question is whether the networks will make a projection in Pennsylvania with Mr. Biden holding a nominal edge, or whether they’ll wait for him to build a more significant lead. Sometimes, they wait for a candidate to build a lead outside of the range of a recount — 0.5 of a point in Pennsylvania — before making a projection. There was a similar situation in Michigan on Wednesday, as Mr. Biden took a lead that was sure to grow, but the networks didn’t call the state until Mr. Biden led by a full point. He now leads there by around three points.
AZ:
The bottom line: Arizona may continue to tighten, and there’s no basis to call the state at this time. But Mr. Trump is not on track to overtake Mr. Biden. He’ll need to do better than what he has done so far.
Mr. Biden will be president-elect if he’s declared the projected winner in both Arizona and Nevada.
GA:
All together, Mr. Biden has a very slim but nonetheless clear edge in the state. There’s just not much vote left, and on balance what’s out would tend to pad his lead. Still, don’t expect a call soon. It’s within the margin of a recount. This one might not be called until the results are certified.
NV:
So far, no one has projected the state for Mr. Biden, but virtually all of the remaining vote is from this heavily Democratic county.
- Looks like Biden has it won, it's just not official.nb
- I like how the NYT is waiting for "the networks" to make a projection. Pretty interesting.nb
- at this point, we're holding a pair of Aces and the flop came AAK. Trump meanwhile just went all in with 2&6 unsuited lol._niko
- ^ Was that poker language?CyBrainX
- Georgia is planning a recount but will they go ahead with it if all the others are beyond 1% leads for Biden giving him more than 270 electoral points?CyBrainX
- Yes, most likely. It is still important to record things accurately.nb
- yuekit6
Biden took the lead in PA. Game over man!
- IT'S DONE
the orange man will ge the fooka outta here. FINALLYBennn - Well unless Trump retakes the lead haha. They haven't finished counting yet. But it seems unlikely.yuekit
- Pennsylvania almost a 6k gap at 98%sted
- Yeah. The bottom of the pile of mail in ballots is 1,000+ deep all trump. No fucking way.monospaced
- Still 25 000 ballots to count in PA, according to CNN.Continuity
- Oh good then there’s no chance trump can win.monospaced
- that is philly, even more in other blue countiestank02
- Good job on tracking all this Yuekit. You had this called from the beginning. I was a bit more doom and gloom on how it would turn out.ayport
- I was warning friends not to worry about how bad it would look at first but at 10pm on Wednesday, I was out of my mind with misery.CyBrainX
- IT'S DONE
- tank021
Biden leads Georgia by 950
- Not exactly a commanding lead, is it?Continuity
- Votes still coming in. And Bush won Florida over 500-ish votes.tank02
- Could still go either way. But it's significant since this one is not a liberal state.yuekit
- yupfadein11
- auto recount if it stays that close, no?Fax_Benson
- This going to the courts. Media will likely call it for Biden. The fact that counting just stopped on election night is just 1 of many red flags.IRNlun6
- lol, it will go to the courts and fail. it will be a convincing Biden win in next day or twofadein11
- We'll see. This isn't the first time we've heard "it's the beginning of the end of Trump." How's that panned out in the last 4 years?IRNlun6
- On what basis would courts overturn the result of the election IRNlun6? Biden is likely going to have a significant margin in more states than he needs.yuekit
- I don't have a problem predicting it now lol...this is the beginning of the end of Trump.yuekit
- We'll see.IRNlun6
- We'll see what, IRN? Mail in ballots that are mostly for Trump? Please.monospaced
- Ramanisky20
YUP
- All violence should be punished. Simple as that. Hopefully police will do its job and any redneck cuck will get what he deserves.babydick
- Law & Order
lolBennn - Omg this stupid af argument again. Please. As if violence would do anything except cause more loss and swift harsh justice for those committing it.monospaced
- He will float invalidation but courts are only swayed by evidence. Violence in the streets is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter at all.monospaced
- lol, Imagine Trump claiming "law & order" if his supporters are the ones rioting.brandonp
- nb2
Nevada’s Clark County, the largest population center, just delivered big for Biden — giving him nearly 20,000 votes, more than double what Trump received in this drop. Biden is much closer to clinching Nevada.
Source: New York Times
- NYT is now in the process of considering calling Nevada for Biden.nb
- monospaced1
I love it. Trump campaign hasn’t brought a single lawsuit with any evidence a court could even look at. Hilarious.
- A lot of people still believe this shit though. It's scary how there is no rational thought process.yuekit
- People get passionate about politics... and also people think they understand how the law works from watching TV.nb
- Giuliani's argument to the courts is "Our watchers were 15 - 30 ft away when they only needed to be 6 ft away, therefore we should THROW OUT all those ballots.nb
- Judges aren't idiots & they're far less political than people pretend. They may be biased, but they're not subverting law to cheat a man into the presidency.nb
- Count them again then. Count them 3 more time. Triple check. Who gives a fuck. They lost.monospaced
- I agree nb. Judges are not idiots. Trump will present a case, and if it's a good one, we'll see whats next from there.IRNlun6
- Media declaring it's over has no legal basis in the outcome of the election. It certainly influences peoples opinions on if it's valid or not.IRNlun6
- Why would think Trump has any case at all? Has he articulated one aside from "votes are fake because I'm losing"?yuekit
- It's crazy that people haven't figured out that Trump is a shameless liar over the course of four years. Will be interesting to see at what point they snap outyuekit
- of it (if they do at all).yuekit
- He has, and millions of people believe it as well. Whether you think it's valid or not is irrelevant.IRNlun6
- OK explain it then.yuekit
- There's nothing suspicious about Democrat-leaning votes coming in late. People have been talking for weeks about how this was likely to happen due toyuekit
- the pandemic and vote by mail. Some states with GOP legislatures even mandated they couldn't start counting the vote by mail until after the in person votes.yuekit
- There will be a case. Valid or not, at this point that will decide the outcome. You don't think there's a case, fine. Changes nothing.IRNlun6
- So you have no idea what the case will actually be but you think it will "decide the outcome"yuekit
- Umm, yes. If he can make a valid argument, it's not over. If he can't, then Biden wins. Hence "decide the outcome."IRNlun6
- lol at thinking all the fraud is just in Philadelphia and Atlanta. Republicans are so transparently butt hurt it’s pathetic.monospaced
- I'm sure you can find cases of fraud or mistakes somewhere, it's pretty much inevitable when 150 million people vote.yuekit
- But the idea that there will be enough to overturn the result in multiple states when you have no evidence at all...seems a bit fantastical.yuekit
- BTW you need standing to bring a case at all...you can't just challenge all the results everywhere.yuekit
- Anyone can file any lawsuit they want. This is what is happening now. Judges so far have quickly tossed the cases based on the legal merits.nb
- You can write up a suit that says "we should win because Biden has grey hair" and the judge will read it and say "There's no law against grey hair. Dismissed."nb
- You can't definitively say what will happen because you can't know what lawsuits will be argued.nb
- However, you might presume Giuliani is arguing his best possible suits first, which so far have changed the results not one bit.nb
- yuekit1
Why it's taking so long in Pennsylvania...
Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania refused to allow mail-in ballots to be processed ahead of time, causing delays that have left the result of the 2020 presidential election in limbo.
- neverscared0
Georgia secretary of state confirms there will be a recount
Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, has confirmed there will be a recount in the state.“There will be a recount in Georgia,” Raffensberger said in Atlanta, promising transparency in the process.
Given how close the presidential race is in Georgia, it was expected that the state would conduct a recount.
As of now, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump by just 1,579 votes in Georgia, representing a virtual tie.
- Yeah that's fine. Recount if it's close. Makes sense to double check.nb
- mg332
I'm honestly surprised Republicans aren't more excited about Biden winning. Didn't Trump and other prominent Republicans say that Covid-19 would go away the day after the election if Biden won? Didn't they say that the economy would fully reopen?
- lol it'll go the way of the migrant caravan at the midterms!MondoMorphic
- whatthefunk0
- well, it's ok when white people do it /sdorf
- It says they're praying right there.palimpsest
- Thoughts and prayers guys!_niko
- That tan suit though.palimpsest
- I guess that God does not agree with what the sheep refer to as "good to prevail" fucking losers all of them.utopian
- Upside down world.ideaist
- It's not ironic because the National Anthem isn't playing. They're making a statement while not shitting on all the people who fought and died for them.MondoMorphic
- No, it's not ironic because they are not protesting. Make language great again.palimpsest
- cherub-1
I predict he will start a nuclear war to avoid leaving office, or incite terrorist supporters to start a civil war. What am I basing this on?
Michael Cohen's own words.
Failing that he could wink at his zionist pal Netanyahu to annex all of West Bank and Gaza Strip. They've been wanting to do that for a long time. This would destabilize the middle east.
He's not out of options yet.
- hopefully someone will stop him of doing anything crazyBennn
- ^ LOL
Please. They couldn't stop his crazy for the last 4 years, and he's got his little bitch Lindsey Graham ponying up cash for lawsuits.Continuity - This fat cuck can suck a bag of dicks once the count is over.babydick
- iam talking something REALLY crazy Continuity, like starting a war because he's madBennn
- To start a war you need senates consent.zaq
- Technically you do but no one follows that rule anymoreyuekit
- However I think the military itself might refuse his orders if he tried to do something crazyyuekit
