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- Ramanisky21
Tucker just a moment ago.
- Keep the posts continuity Rama! Wtf is this shit?!grafician
- Just Tucker inciting more violence while millions of viewers watch his racist show.Ramanisky2
- Obviously, but those ppl are lost, let's focus on the ones that do matter still?grafician
- All good graf, I gotchaRamanisky2
- All good Rama, I gotchagrafician
- CheersRamanisky2
- I fucking hate that Fucker Carlson.babydick
- grafician1
"Lakers issue a statement, standing with their players and those from other teams."
Now this is how you lead!
NBA and other sports have a real chance to amplify the message, because only f sports can unite people this good...
Waiting for the music community to wake up and take over, arts too...
- Good for the Lakers. If the NBA really cared though, they'd stop being hypocrites and take care of their China problem.MondoMorphic
- pango-1
- drgs0
So why are people racists?
Desegregation of the 1950s was based on the premise that racism was a consequence of lack of culture and poor education. However, the luminaries of behavioral biology have established that racism has nothing to do with upbringing, IQ or education.
By and large racism has no more convictions or conscious choice than for example homosexuality. It's just that there is a biological mechanism fixed by evolution: when you see a stranger, be alert, who knows what he has on his mind.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/…
In the brain it is the amygdala which is responsible for recognizing friend or foe. Those with less developed amygdala will only get a minor sense of discomfort at the sight of a stranger, and those who who have overdeveloped amygdala are "literally shaking". There is also the prefrontal cortex which moderates the amygdala, which is basically what I described in my previous post (controlling the sinful urges), and those with sloppy prefrontal cortices are consequently more racist, so maybe IQ does have a play in this, but not directly.Interestingly, the bonding hormone oxytocin can also make you racist (not by making you more hostile towards POCs directly, but by making you favor your own kin more, I think married men with children tend to be more racist)
https://time.com/49399/oxytocin-…Bad news is amygdala fears are at firmware level together with spiders and reptilians. Good news is it can be patched. There was a study done on American recruits, which I cannot find, which showed that recruits who served together with POCs were void of racist attitudes than those who served in white-only squads.
Basically, like with any irrational fears, which are either installed by default or imprinted in childhood, phobias can be overcome/whitelisted by exposure.
Tl;dr: racism is not learned -- it must be unlearned. This problem is especially difficult because it requires you to overcome the stubborn nature of your biology, which lags 10000 years behind where the society is today.Hence the notorious school busing. A good idea in principle -- to mix children when they are still young, before the stereotypes are set for life, but difficult to execute. All this is complicated.
This is also why I keep nagging about segregated student dorms, the most murderous phenomenon possible today and orthogonality opposite of what Americans should be doing. In two generations from now you will have more racism than during slavery.
Discuss
- Discuss!pango
- We go full debate on this onedrgs
- Them's a lot of words for "Most humans are tribalist, until they're not".Nairn
- As you all know, the loudest homophobes are latent homosexuals, who suppress their sexuality.
Similarly, I have a theory that individualsdrgs - with unpatched amygdala, who are controling their racist urges with raw willpower (=prefrontal cortex), have the greatest feeling of guiltdrgs
- and therefore a greater need to seem as anti-racist. They are also the loudest, most mouthfoaming fighters of racism.drgs
- It goes both ways, sort of the opposite of this: https://nymag.com/in…drgs
- Whenever there is a conflict between amygdala and prefrontal cortex there is neuroticism -- BLM for short.drgs
- Just kidding, but seriously, if the BLM movement is mainly guilt-driven, its bad news, because it will eventually culminate in some form of sadistic fascism.drgs
- the amygdala controls all emotional responses saying it can be 'patched' is like saying you can end racism by turning off the TVkingsteven
- Get yourself black friends and spend time with them, that's all. Most people in urban areas have been through that and are "vaccinated"drgs
- which is why your last assumption is so off... you can unlearn racism, but it has nothing to do with stimulation of the amygdala.kingsteven
- But its worse if you grew up in some rural predominately white areadrgs
- in a general sense control of amygdala = emotional maturity.kingsteven
- https://www.reddit.c…drgs
- i fully endorse meditation as a method to reduce racism and general reactionary fuckery in the world.kingsteven
- and hard drugskingsteven
- I enjoy reading these contrarian takes but have you considered possibility that the side that wants to build a giant wall to keep the scary foreigners out mightyuekit
- be the ones with "overdeveloped amygdala"?yuekit
- I think there is even science backing this up actually...yuekit
- https://www.ncbi.nlm…yuekit
- https://qz.com/12389…yuekit
- They have the biggest, veiniest amygdalas, throbbing with justice!drgs
- "greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala"yuekit
- So yeah you're onto something here but unfortunately it shakes out exactly the way you'd expect.yuekit
- "the size of the bilateral amygdala, which governs emotions, survival instincts, and memory, was strongly correlated with support for the existing social order"drgs
- Nairn, what drugs suppress amygdala?
https://clinicaltria…
"MDMA will increase mPFC, but decrease amygdala"drgs - that was me ha:
https://www.ncbi.nlm…kingsteven - Lololol at “I have a theory”nb
- Just thought of a great analogy. All children are born as fussy eaters. With age they learn what foods they like/are ok to eat.drgs
- This is an universal evolutionary strategy: You are born with "Deny from all" and gradually you whitelist things which are safe.drgs
- Not the other way around (accept all and gradually blacklist things which are bad).
From evolutionary perspective the first strategy was better.drgs - Same with people who seem strange or new.drgs
- Amygdala is the .htaccessdrgs
- You're now conflating the amygdala with the entire function of the brain.kingsteven
- All children aren't born as fussy eaters though.fadein11
- Don't show them where you keep Tide podsdrgs
- "the loudest homophobes are latent homosexuals",
true.i_was - hey drgs, your analogy about fussy eating children is the biggest load of ignorant bullshit I've read today, congratsmonospaced
- it implies people are racist by nature, which if you have children, you know is absolute bullshit ... racism is 100% taughtmonospaced
- It's NOT an evolutionary strategy. You just made that up.monospaced
- https://www.parents.…drgs
- https://www.utoronto…drgs
- "Lee, a professor at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, says that lack of exposure to other races may be the cause."drgs
- The fuck did we just discussed for 40 subnotes?drgs
- actually the subnotes are mostly you and people telling you you're wrong. this was all discussed in depth when obama said "children are not born racist" yearskingsteven
- ago, the idea of race bias in babies is well known but it has no connection to racism as adults (other than to say we naturally fear what we don't know)kingsteven
- yes, and my message about "whitelisting" the unknown somehow got lost in the discussion?drgs
- We are not discussing how we want things to be. Do you agree or disagree with me -- has nada effect on how amygdalas work. All we can do it to understanddrgs
- Nature is indifferent to our sentimental snot chewing, what is racist, politically incorrect, and how we wished things should have been instead.drgs
- I wish the same things as you do, the only difference is that I understand that there is no one to care about these wishesdrgs
- BLM is raw human nature turned inside out, which we cannot control one tiniest bit, only observe from distancedrgs
- Like rectal prolapsedrgs
- I stopped reading at the end of the first paragraph. Did a white man write this?Maaku
- You do realise your theory is embraced by BLM too? race is more than the colour of skin, it's a social construct that is learned.kingsteven
- the amygdala is interconnected to every part of the brain, it coordinates all emotional responses, it does not act independentlykingsteven
- the analogy of flavours is only relevant because children don't even have fully developed taste buds until they are 6 months +kingsteven
- babies do not require salt, so they aren't born with that facility. it's the same with the amygdala - beyond what is evolutionarily required to survive requireskingsteven
- reason - and this is why kids should be exposed to kids of other races. but it requires a lot of enforcement of race bias to make a racist.kingsteven
- my niece ate olives until she turned 6, started school and found out her friends don't like them. racism is not so simple :Dkingsteven
- Amygdala is a bit more high-functioning than just flavors: its more about what type of berries will poison you and which will not.drgs
- It is more evolutionary advantageous to be a skeptic by default, and only put things in your mouth if your parents say its ok.drgs
- This was relevant 100 000 years ago, now not so much, but the stubborn flesh will make sure this continues to work for thousands of years to comedrgs
- Similarly with neighboring tribes. Some are friendly, some are at war with you. By default skepticism makes sure that you survive.drgs
- Again an atavism, not relevant, so its your job as a parent to teach the kids to whitelist all other races/phenotypes.drgs
- I disagree that babies are “born racist”. “Estimating the threat level of a new person” is being incorrectly bandied about as interchangeable with “racism” herescarabin
- I do agree that time spent with other races may dissolve racist impulses but toddlers don’t give a flying fuck about the color of each other’s skinscarabin
- That shit is learned behavior from the family and people it’s raised aroundscarabin
- Drgs is saying he's racist and he can't help it.pango
- To a baby everything is ALREADY whitelisted and threats require blacklisting. Just look at all the crap they put in their mouths to investigatescarabin
- Racism is learnedscarabin
- If you start eating every random shit that grows on the ground (in nature, not your kitchen), you will be dead within the first day. This is self-explanatory.drgs
- Correct. That’s what parents are for. To teach them what’s dangerous. In the wild as well as with humansscarabin
- Also i never said babies EAT everything, just that they put it in their mouths to investigate because they don’t know better yet. It’s still whitelisted to themscarabin
- If a baby was born with everything blacklisted it would hate everyone and everything and that’s just not the casescarabin
- And nothing would go in their mouths because everything is a threatscarabin
- First article in google http://www.bbc.com/e…drgs
- Scarabin, you're describing the world as you want it to be, not how it is.
https://www.newscien…drgs - I’m not even talking about food, i’m talking about investigation. Picking up sharp things, touching ovensscarabin
- This article says food neophobia kicks in around 2nd or 3rd birthdays and i would argue that they have developed eating preferences by thenscarabin
- Drgs, The kids in that study were aged 5 to 17. PLENTY of time to learn racial bias.scarabin
- So, if I was to attack the problem at it's root -- how is racial bias learned?drgs
- I think you’re right that exposure is critical, growing up ONLY around people of a certain type creates a preference toward that typescarabin
- Those things become what’s “normal”. I just mainly disagree about the baby thing. I think it happens a bit laterscarabin
- And more subtly than some might suspectscarabin
- Anyway, I will agree to the following:
1) both whitelisting and blacklisting is possibledrgs - 2) there is some level of initial fear, which is lower than if a subject is blacklisted, and higher than if whitelisteddrgs
- I absolutely agree that segregated dorms will only reinforce biasesscarabin
- Thank you scarabin.monospaced
- All people are racist at firmware level
https://www.youtube.…drgs
- elahon8
- The right wing media is and always has been appallingRamanisky2
- more pathetic than strange to me...neverscared
- How is the liberal media any better? They're two identical pieces of shit, IMO.MondoMorphic
- ^ Annnnnd there’s the “both sides” brigade.Ramanisky2
- Liberal media doesn't get behind racist murderers, regardless of their skin color or job description.monospaced
- That is spectacularly unique among the current administrations most idiotic mouth breathing supporters.monospaced
- As mono said, it's not about the media here... this statement is true of the supporters. Media is business, don't expect much from them either way.ben_
- Ramanisky23
- wow this ain't gonna end wellrenderedred
- WTF!?oey_oey
- twat gonna twatterMilan
- It's Kyle vs George from now ondrgs
- wft can't believe this is reali_was
- It’s real .. I checkedRamanisky2
- So at what point does your society turnaround and hold these people accountable for the violence they are promoting?Nairn
- No jury will convict. One chap he shot is nonce https://conservative…Phrenological
- Hey look everyone,
we have a new green boboRamanisky2 - I was reading up on this guy and 3 others he shot. None of them are from Kenosha, amazing how many people these American festivities attract from out of towndrgs
- ^He's been here a while Ram https://www.qbn.com/…PhanLo
- Hmm ..1st time seeing that name for me.Ramanisky2
- Ann Coulter is just a troll. Fox gave her air time because they could make money off her and they take no responsibility for what people say on their network.nb
- @Ram, he was jumping around various accounts that have been deleted.PhanLo
- https://mobile.twitt…noRGB
- Damn, that’s some fucked up foreshadowingscarabin
- blonde bimbo is bimboing.neverscared
- Ramanisky22
more Right Wing LIES.
- i still don't understand why blake kept running and refusing to obey plod's command.hans_glib
- i've been threatened with a gun twice and both times i did exactly what i was told. maybe he's a braver man than i was.hans_glib
- not that i'm condoning the cowardly killing of him for one minute - that's a total disgrace and those fucking bastards need prosecuting.hans_glib
- I understand where you’re coming from. Also .. He’s not dead, he’s paralyzed.Ramanisky2
- Violent felon paralysed. Most voters will rejoice at this news. https://www.pewresea…Phrenological
- Hey look everyone,
we have a new green boboRamanisky2 - he got tased just before this, possible that he was in a daze, disoriented and just thinking about his kids?_niko
- remember to keep calm when you're getting tazed kids!pango
- Phrenological-9
- Hey look everyone,
we have a new green boboRamanisky2 - Phrenology? Really!?monospaced
- It’s a trolling moniker — and you fell for itGnash
- Did I though?monospaced
- YupGnash
- Hey look everyone,
- Phrenological-10
- Seem Rittenhouse did the world a favor.Phrenological
- The dead skater chap is a fellon also.Phrenological
- Hey look everyone,
we have a new green boboRamanisky2 - BANISH HIM TO GABNET!hans_glib
- Fuck Off Dinofooler
- I am curious as to why these slack-jawed cunts keep coming back and try to bring their /pol shit with them.face_melter
- Maybe swapping child porn and copies of the Turner Diaries on Parler gets boring after a while?face_melter
- Well "thank god" he only killed a pedo... but, since he didn't know any of that, the murder is still inexcusable.ben_
- Are green users just paid trolls at this point? Spouting this extreme right Andy Ngo Doxxing Bullshit on what used to be a pretty cool design community?jonny_quest_lives
- ^ Yeah exactly, if he’s been here a while why is his name still green??
I don’t get it.Ramanisky2 - "Dead skater chap" -Phrenological
Rittenhouse was no fucking hero. Just a loser whose mommy bought him a gun and had dreams off offing someone.jonny_quest_lives - Drove all the way from his home Illinois to get together with his other gun fetishists to start shit with protestors in Wisconsin.jonny_quest_lives
- Fuken BoBopango
- https://i.redd.it/73…pango
- Both the Kenosha Police Chief and Sheriff should lose their fucking jobs for allowing this shit to happen. Damn powder keg.jonny_quest_lives
- https://www.jsonline…jonny_quest_lives
- So I hope this Rittenhouse shit is prosecuted to the full extent of the law...jonny_quest_lives
- The laws on self-defense in that state won’t make prosecution a cake walk. They are pretty vagueGnash
- How about if a user stays green for 1 week without certification, their account deleted and email banned?ben_
- Not sure if this is the case but in some case. if you bring weapon to look for trouble, instigating shit, self defence doesn't stand.pango
- Ramanisky20
same Sherrif from yesterday’s press conference in Kenosha.
This clip is from 2018
Here he is talking about 4 African Americans who were shoplifting and were then caught by police after a car chase.
- Ramanisky20
POS
- at this point all americans should just go on a general strike and turn off their tvs. let's see his ratings then.renderedred
- monNom1
NY Times reporter is doing a good job reconstructing the timeline of Kenosha Shooter: https://twitter.com/trbrtc
Here's a video showing the events immediately before Ramanisky2's video from yesterday. A group is chasing and attacking the shooter. One in the group appears to fire first (in the air). First victim is part of the group chasing shooter and closes on him before being shot.
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/statu…Later, ongoing chase. 2nd and 3rd victims both actively attacking shooter with a skateboard and a pistol respectively.
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/statu…- 1st
https://twitter.com/…monNom - okay. I have no idea how to link to a tweet.
1st one starts with "At 23:19, Rittenhouse..."
2nd starts with "While fleeing from the scene..."monNom - are you trying to justify what this little terrorist cunt did???
Honest question.Ramanisky2 - Draw your own conclusions. AFAIK this is new evidence not yet included in this thread.monNom
- Okay.
https://thumbs.gfyca…Ramanisky2 - If he was a terrorist, why wait till the last moment when they gang up on him?
https://pbs.twimg.co…drgs - It’s also illegal for a 17 yr old to open carry not to mention murder.
But do go on.Ramanisky2 - If this happened the other way around everyone here would be doing backflips In the opposite direction.Gnash
- He broke 3 laws, for sure. Age, open gun carry only for locals (he is not), and Wisconsin does not have a stand-your-ground law.drgs
- But there is a difference to these two situations:
1) Fire 7 shots in some black dude's back, because you felt he stood the wrong waydrgs - 2) Be 17 and be chased by a gang of BLM protestors, one of them is firing a gun in the air. You end up on your back and they circle you.drgs
- Is the second situation as black and white as the first one?drgs
- Anyone actually bother watching the footage?
https://www.youtube.…PonyBoy - AR Kyle was running away / fleeing... he was tripped and smacked w/a skateboard while another dude shot his handgun in the air... what a fucking mess :/PonyBoy
- I hadn't watched any vids until now. I've only heard news clips that make it sound like another high school shooter went apeshit on a peaceful crowd. :/PonyBoy
- Same here. I read Washington Post article saying he tucked and rolled and opened fire on a crowd. No mention of the chase, nor assailants.monNom
- *cricketsPonyBoy
- Again what was a 17 year-old doing at a protest outside of his home state with an unlicensed/illegal weapon? Cosplay with consequences?jonny_quest_lives
- *Cricketsjonny_quest_lives
- This bullshit "operator" bravado these wannabe militia gun fetishists swagger around with this was bound to happen.jonny_quest_lives
- dunno—what was the dude firing his handgun in the air doing out there armed? seems this story is full of holes but focused on one narrative.PonyBoy
- So all the protesters should also only be homegrown?Gnash
- The kid was leaving, jonny... running away even... I wouldn't have known that w/out watching the video.PonyBoy
- Got it Pony... So in your america I can go to my closest grab a tactical loadout show up at a protest and murder someone if I feel threatened.jonny_quest_lives
- And it doesn't make me the aggressor?jonny_quest_lives
- did you watch the video, jonny?
What you just described is not what happened. yes the kid showed up w/his scary looking gun. So did some clown w/a handgun.PonyBoy - That about the gist of your argument?jonny_quest_lives
- "The kid was leaving"jonny_quest_lives
- Is the clown w/the handgun allowed to shoot his gun like that? ...at a fleeing man or at least in the air to cause the obvious chaos that followed?PonyBoy
- Also—do some research on the skater that's now dead and the other shooter—looks like they not exactly home towners either (lots of folks in that crowd aren't)PonyBoy
- The Kid shouldn't have fucking been there. Cops shouldn't allow armed "Militia" anywhere near protestors.
CASCADE OF FAILURESjonny_quest_lives - There's no fucking narrative other than the one you are trying to spin to justify this 17 year old kid's actionsjonny_quest_lives
- And to answer your emotionally driven question (not based on the facts at hand)... No, jonny... in 'my america' you can't murder people.PonyBoy
- I'm NOT justifying his actions, jonny. FFS I'd just like the full story. You see a militia man and I see a KID surrounded by KIDS. You're right to be pissed...PonyBoy
- ... at the 'CASCADE OF FAILURES'. I couldn't agree more... but YOU are not focused on the full truth. You see a militiaman w/a big scary gun...PonyBoy
- ... and leave out THE OTHER GUN and the crowd attacking the kid... knocking him to the ground... beating him w/a skateboard and shooting a gun in the air.PonyBoy
- Part of this 'cascade of failures' we are all living through is that folks leave out LOTS OF INFO to run w/one fucking narrative. Fuck that nonsense.PonyBoy
- Did they detain the dude that shot into the air? Is that legal?scarabin
- I posted an article the only out of towners were Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, of West Allis Wisconsin. And the shooter Kyle Rittenhouse of Antioch Illinois.jonny_quest_lives
- "You see a militia man and I see a KID surrounded by KIDS."jonny_quest_lives
- https://www.youtube.…PonyBoy
- "People are getting injured and our job is to protect this business," "And part of my job also is to protect people." -Kyle Rittenhouse Delusional as well.jonny_quest_lives
- his mom drove him there and most likely purchased his illegal weapon. And after he murdered 2 protesters she drove him back across state lines. Tippy Top ParentRamanisky2
- You should feel bad for him... still a kid and filled w/hate not of his own making. Again... I see a crowd of kids and some of them had guns. It saddens me. :(PonyBoy
- 1st
- Ramanisky26
- So all these guys are dead?
https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash - ^ One is missing a toe after he shot himself in the foot by accident.PhanLo
- That’s more than 1 black Kyle Rittenhouse Gnash lolRamanisky2
- In that same situation, yes, if he was black cops would have shot him down with hundreds of ammosi_was
- So all these guys are dead?
- elahon1
THE FUCK?
Jacob Blake is handcuffed to his hospital bed, his dad says, and authorities won't say what he's been arrested for or charged with.
