Sexual Harassment of the DAY

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  • spl33nidoru0

    Fax I understand what you're saying and can agree for the most part.

    Your first paragraph is a lot about managing the situation and avoiding confrontation when dealing with someone more powerful or wealthy. You're disregarding what people will willingly (if not remorsefully) put themselves through to advance their career, get richer or jump to the big league.

    Weinstein has never NOT had his reputation. It was always well known in this industry that he was all about sexual favours, and would either flirt you to death, take pleasure in arm-wrestling you in business or despise you right away.

    The level of hypocrisy that is going on in this case and coming from insiders is baffling.
    There's no way a girl in a position to meet him would not be warned left and right, unless she was young to this industry and tricked either by her boss or agent, in which case they should also be accountable.

    I can totally understand that someone with no ties with Hollywood would look at this differently. But HW was the notoriously horny Anna Wintour or Steve Jobs of cinema, and tons of people played along to get a piece of him. You might call him disgusting or repulsive, there's no shortage of mind-boggling couples when big money is involved.

    An actress exgf (10 years ago) would already tell me about dodging him any chance she'd get when bumping into him at events. And without any other connection to that field back then, I already assumed him to be like that!
    Some of her friends made other choices and their names would be more familiar to you.

    Of course his behaviour is wrong and the fact that this system was allowed to strive for decades is sickening.

    But rape is a serious matter that shouldn't be thrown around so lightly, and because of complains like this one he will most likely end up walking free.

    • I get where your coming from but this video is in two parts. First her meeting then the "deal". your right he is WYSWYG and that's why she filmed it.mugwart
    • second is the alleged rape. That is a criminal matter and only for the police/ legal to work out if she is and isnt.mugwart
    • Hollywood is a corrupt system and has been since its roots, you are right it goes on and you have to be very very awake to survive.mugwart
    • Even Lynch has made a few films about it. The more layers you go into the worse it gets. My frustration is that I used to support the independent film studiosmugwart
    • but HW owned them. Everyone I seem to know whom has worked with "set" work was aware of these going ons. Really lowmugwart
    • Right. Also, 1 key factor I forgot to mention. In my experience, given the chance, most people will ditch their principles for fame & proximity to famous peoplespl33nidoru
    • I can't pretend to know about Hollywood. If you know exactly what she should have known, or did know, then fair enough. Lots who'll blame her won't have a clue.Fax_Benson
    • I hear you and i'm definitely not saying she asked for it, nor taking rape lightly. I just don't think she was naive, and I think an adult can reluctantly findspl33nidoru
    • himself/herself having sex without it being rape. Ok enough for me on the subject! :)spl33nidoru
  • Fax_Benson2

    We know that fame / power / pressure changes the way people react in certain situations. If somebody you believe to be more powerful than you behaves inappropriately, most people will instinctively go along with it in the hope of managing the situation. People tend to be compliant in order to avoid confrontation if they feel that confrontation will make the situation worse (even though the opposite is clearly evident with hindsight).

    How many times have you regretted the way you've acted in a pressure environment and wished you 'd said something different or stood up for yourself more? And then felt uneasy about raising it afterwards? Or let fear overtake your rational thought process? Or made a bad decision because a girl asked you? Or ever done anything stupid because of fear or pressure?

    So there are legitimate reasons why people feel psychologically pressured into acquiescing, despite their better judgement.

    But let's say she wasn't pressured or coerced. She knew the rules and took responsibility for her actions. The rules of the game say that she needs to flirt to get a deal. Otherwise no deal. She had a decision to make and decided to flirt in order to get the deal. He then changes the rules. The rules now are 'we fuck in my hotel room and no deal'. What does she do now?

    This is basic stuff that our partners / family might have to deal with. Can't get my head around some of the comments.

    • +1Gnash
    • +1
      How does a deal maker compete with women (and men) who have no qualms about 'sweetening' the deal?
      Morning_star
  • youngdesigner0

    Asia Argento accuser accused of sexual misconduct

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/as…

  • imbecile0

    but hillary's emails!

  • PonyBoy4

    Another substantial Hollywood twat is about to fall...

    ****

    Leslie Moonves Accused of Sexual Misconduct in Ronan Farrow Exposé

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.co…

    "The CBS CEO, one of the most powerful men in Hollywood, is accused of unwanted kissing and touching in a New Yorker article set to be published Friday."

    • Assshat Moonvesutopian
    • when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anythingfooler
  • Bennn-5

    damn

    Maynard James Keenan (TOOL singer) accused of raping a fan in 2000

    http://www.brooklynvegan.com/may…

    • That new TOOL album will probably wait for ever now! He's in deep shit. Read the whole thing <<Bennn
    • We did. Five hours before you poted.Continuity
    • *postedContinuity
    • Rock star having sex with fans backstage for years!! when did this start happening?!robotron3k
    • lolMaaku
    • Its extremely frightening that an anonymous post on the internet, whether true or not, can destroy the life of a man. Guilty by social media...robotron3k
    • ^ yeah.mugwart
    • don't worry robo, you can't be accused if you pay for it.dorf
    • just wait until all of the Van Halen, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, etc etc groupies start to speak out.fooler
    • Brooklyn Vegan.

      LOLOLOLOL
      severian
    • He actually did this many times to many people. People are speaking out on Reddit. Of course he's not alone, almost every rock star did it.Bennn
    • People are also calling out how it is false with provided facts.severian
    • Ben, you’re such a gossip whore. Small minds discuss people...imbecile
    • OHHH shietpango
    • anonymous internet posts ftwinteliboy
    • Right, who knows if it's a woman or a man doing it, but it's fucking insane social media is being used to assassin practically anybody...robotron3k
    • Maynard is one fucked up individual, i wouldnt be surprise at all if its all realBennn
    • I'd say it's the previous band mate who got kicked out of the band.pango
    • ^ or nickleback ;-)mugwart
    • Uggggghpango
    • Please stop reminding us the mistake we made.pango
    • If one forget history they live to repeat history - let us never forget Nickleback!mugwart
    • Nooooooooopango
    • fake allegationNBQ00
  • utopian3

    CBS' Les Moonves quits after new sex misconduct charges

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/s…

    • Moonves resigned just hours after six more women accused the veteran television executive of sexual misconduct.utopian
  • Akagiyama1

    Noooooo! Not Morgan Freeman! :(

    • "Hi girl, can I get in your Wormhole?"M01XXX
    • Would these women come out if the inappropriate behavior came from someone like Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth?Maaku
    • It's inappropriate regardless, just curious as to how many would consent if the actor was "hot".Maaku
    • CNN has a long ass article of nothing but comments he made (and some attempts at lifting a skirt). I obviously don't approve but does that justify such length ?spl33nidoru
    • A third woman who worked on a recent movie of Freeman's recalled an incident at the film's wrap party. "He was looking at my breasts, and I told him,freedom
    • 'My eyes are up here.' Then we went to take a group photo and he pressed himself up against me. It was inappropriate."freedom
    • lool wormholeGuyFawkes
    • wait what?notype
  • DRIFTMONKEY1
    • Wouldn't be surprised, frankly.Continuity
    • This reads a but weird. I know hes very into OTO and do as thou Will and the whole Law. He seems a wild bloke but I doubt he would need to rape. But I am a fanmugwart
    • *a bit. If she was raped I do hope she goes to the police.mugwart
    • The thing is, the account she (if it's a she) posted on is anonymous, so could be done as hit piece, fake, or real. Who know, but they want him brought down.robotron3k
    • Isn't this the exact sort of thing that would actually boost album sales nowadays, just sayinwhatthefunk
    • ^ I disagree. We are in an age of character assassinations.mugwart
  • BonSeff0
    • So, who's she talking about?Hayzilla
    • Chris Hardwick of course!
      Should I stop listening to Nerdist?
      Hayzilla
    • Sounds like she's Borderline, with victim mentally, who is on the name and shame bandwagon, but this is not harrassment.robotron3k
    • damn, she's gorgeous.Gnash
    • hardwick has the short-guy personality disorderGnash
    • "It wasn’t the first time I’d found myself in a relationship with an older man; I’ve always joked about my daddy issues"robotron3k
    • her eyes were open. not sure why she felt the need to spill. guy sounds like a douche, but no surprises thereGnash
    • she's still hot, thoughGnash
    • https://news.sky.com…shapesalad
    • So much for due process. Guilty until proven innocent.GM278
    • In no way am I siding with or against the guy, just think its sad how he's getting dropped before even having a chance to defend himself.GM278
    • ^ Agreed. I mean she hardly seems the most stable person. I read that Nerdist deleted him as a founder member of their empire from the website. WTF!Hayzilla
  • PonyBoy4

    //Thank God for the new 5 Second rule by Netflix!!

    :/

    ffs... we've become an overly dramatic group of assholes:

    Netflix film crews 'banned from looking at each other for longer than five seconds' in #metoo crackdown

    https://www.independent.co.uk/ar…

    "New rules imposed on set reportedly include no looking at anyone for longer than five seconds, no lingering hugs, no flirting and no asking for a colleague's phone number."

    • reads like an Onion pieceKrassy
    • “It has sparked jokes,” they added, “with people looking at each other, counting to five, then diverting their eyes.”
      ...hehe... what a pain in the ass :)
      PonyBoy
    • Extreme, but most of these "players" that have been outed have had connections to netflix. So I can understand, not agree, with netflix lawyers coming upmugwart
    • with something over the top.

      how can you cast a show? Crazy.
      mugwart
    • Amazing how much in common the avant grade liberals now have with the misogynist conservatives afraid of human sensuality.Gnash
    • plus, all the creeps will now just switch to 4-second bursts of leeringGnash
    • lol wtfGuyFawkes
    • 5secs is quite a long time to look at someone though to be fair LOL.Hayzilla
  • Akagiyama0
  • freedom0

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/e…

    A third woman who worked on a recent movie of Freeman's recalled an incident at the film's wrap party. "He was looking at my breasts, and I told him, 'My eyes are up here.' Then we went to take a group photo and he pressed himself up against me. It was inappropriate."

    FFS, the woman has every right to be creeped out and avoid him now, but was that really worth reporting?

    • today even looking and admiring a woman is considered almost rape. fuck that shit!renderedred
    • i find myself walking in the street and if it's dark and i walk behind a woman i cross the street, you never know...renderedred
    • that's just polite. Why wouldn;'t you make it clear to a woman on her own in the dark that you're not a threatFax_Benson
    • why should i make it clear, isn't that the default? not a threat. why should i feel like a threat when i'm not?renderedred
    • wtf?Fax_Benson
    • sometimes I accelerate and walk and talk to the woman while walking the same bit of dark street together. takes away the walking alone in a dark street element.uan
    • I stand outside my single female neighbour's front door until she gets home because it's a communal hallway and fuck her, why should I change my habits?Fax_Benson
    • @fax, don't get me wrong, i want to be and i am nice to women but sometimes it's just comical. i walk the street at night,renderedred
    • and see women pulling out their phones while walking past, just because i am a relatively big guy (190cm) have long hair and a beard. fuck that!renderedred
    • sometimes i even try to smile, or say "good evening" to defuse the "situation", once a girl told me "don't talk to me, this is harassment!"renderedred
    • maybe they've been attacked in the past. or their friend has. And they don't know why you're behind them in the dark. They don't know you're a nice guyFax_Benson
    • can't believe I'm actually saying this.Fax_Benson
    • since that instant of "good evening" being "harassment" i gave up, if there is a woman within 5 meters i just move away. is that normal for you?renderedred
    • normal to me is not deliberately taking the opportunity to make a woman (or anyone) potentially feel anxious by walking behind them in the darkFax_Benson
    • when you don't have to, which is what I thought you were saying.Fax_Benson
    • sure, i don't want to make anyone anxious. ;)renderedred
    • so i should be anxious about that...renderedred
    • you'll manage, you're a big ladFax_Benson
    • LOLZ @faxrenderedred
    • that's why we can't have nice thingspango
    • You're both idiots for having that conversation.sofakingback
  • i_monk0

    http://m.tmz.com/#!article/2018/…

    Jamie Foxx Accused of Slapping Woman With His Penis in 2002

  • M01XXX-3

    • Do the Muslim grooming gangs also count as sexual harassment??robotron3k
    • What does the music of time taste like?pango
  • pango0

    this is why we can't have nice things!
    fucken morgan freeman! why you gotta go perv!
    we almost had a cool announcer for the transit!

    http://vancouversun.com/news/loc…

    "Less than 24 hours after announcing that Freeman’s big-star voice would be cajoling TransLink passengers with “fun facts, etiquette reminders,” and new ways to pay fares, the transport authority scrambled early Thursday to halt the hype."

    • Yes but still no Clooney, Pitts, Hardy, Decaprio have been #metoo'd, hmmmrobotron3k
    • what? they were gonna do the announcer gig? or they did?pango
    • Mentioning more that no women have come forward in the metoo campaign calling out handsome Hollywood types. Only ugly fat men on get metoo'drobotron3k
    • Of course. It's your own fault for being ugly.pango
    • lol pango.hotroddy
  • BusterBoy2

    The thing that shits me is when incidents like this one get lumped in with Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby.

    FFS, "he made me feel uncomfortable" is slightly different to "he raped me" or "he started masturbating in front of me".

    IMO, he's probably a dirty old perv - those affected should just tell him to pull his head in and fuck off. Not enough to destroy a career though.

    • Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Herpes, HPV, AIDS are all STIs. Some are treatable and a few can be deadly. The stigma is all pretty much the same.jtb26
    • Que jokes about having STI's. IDK. I'll still watch Dark Knight and Shawshenk. But I don't want him telling me what to do on the train.jtb26
  • Gnash7
    • She'll do anything for attention.i_monk
    • she's a total wing-nutGnash
    • Is she African American or did she just steal the style?robotron3k
    • ^ she's about as white as they come.Gnash
    • CRazy cunt_niko
    • I saw her on Yonge in Rosedale the other day, pushing a grocery buggy like a pleb.i_monk
  • chukkaphob9

    Jill Messick, Rose McGowan’s manager at time of alleged Harvey Weinstein rape, commits suicide

    http://www.nydailynews.com/enter…

    • "McGowan told The NYT that her meeting with Weinstein was arranged by Messick—and that she was comforted by the manager after divulging details of the attack."PonyBoy
    • ... fuck... how are you supposed to look back on that being McGowan given Messick was an Exec for Weinstench at the time? what a fucking mess :/PonyBoy
    • Wow. Heavy.shellie
    • Disgusting. A pig.noRGB
  • utopian10

    Steve Wynn Resigns As Head Of Wynn Resorts
    Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations

    https://www.npr.org/sections/the…

    • He looks like a ventriloquist dummy.Frosty_spl
    • It's incredible we've gotten so good at dental preservation but how skin and muscle just don't a fuck about science.noRGB