Star Trek: Discovery
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- CyBrainX0
It's amazing how fickle people turned after 3 episodes.
- Watch the first three episodes of TNG to comparenb
- 5 episodes but who's countinghotroddy
- The first 2 seasons of TNG where bad. Really bad.tank02
- I'm a life long fan. TNG is my favorite series but that first season was pretty weak.CyBrainX
- check out the podcast start trek TNC with Matt Miro & Andy Secunda. Hilarious take on SO1 & S02tank02
- CyBrainX2
I don't have a problem if the show doesn't resemble other star trek but I don't even think that's true. It's sci fi. There are familiar races even a few familiar characters. It's in the original timeline. There's the theme of seeking out new life. There are ethical decisions about how to interact with the new life. There are detached views of humanity from other points of view and you can tell there will be more. It feels a lot more like Star Trek to me than Deep Space 9 ever did.
- hotroddy0
the most likable character is Harry Mudd... and it's amazing how they've slowly emasculated Star Trek over the years.
The ORVILLE is way better. They know their target demo.
- Trek was never overtly 'masculine'. The womanizing Kirk is a meme based on like two episodes.i_monk
- i disagree. The original was super chauvenistic.. but I guess it's a reflection of the times more than a reflection of the series..hotroddy
- even in TNG, William Riker took the role of womanizer... they didn't want Piccard to be that guy.hotroddy
- I'm the target demographic if there ever was one and I don't like Seth McFarlane. I don't get my jollies on geek references.CyBrainX
- ETM1
So saying 'fuck' is cool now in Trek? A weak stunt to get social media buzz?
- The word 'fuck' is the least this horrendous show's problems.Continuity
- haven't seen the ep yet but reading that it was like hearing Wesley Crusher say 'fuck'... awkward and out of place for sure I'd think. :/PonyBoy
- ^ haven't seen the episode yet...CyBrainX
- and?PonyBoy
- It was pointless and really added nothing. Low-brow attempt at humour. Thus a gimmick.ETM
- Gnash0
I'm liking it. But it's just another space show, to me. I don't get the"star trek" vibe that the other series had.
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- Just wait til you see the gender neutral snowflake running med bay 5fadein11
- The Orville feels more Trek than this.i_monk
- Is Orville just another excuse for Seth McFarlane to do Shatner impressions? Or try to remake Galaxy Quest?CyBrainX
- No Shatner Impressions. Maybe some Galaxy Quest. It's actually not too bad.ETM
- If Fox allows it to survive long enough to find its groove, it could become quit good.ETM
- star trek has had gender oddity since the early days. nothing new there, fadeinGnash
- I bet you fucking hate it then hahafadein11
- why would I hate it? -- it doesn't even register.Gnash
- you seem obsessed, though. Take the plunge and do it, stop just thinking about it. you'll have lots of company.Gnash
- Remember when Riker fell in love with a gender neutral alien? Kirk fought duplicates of a few female replicated versions of himself.CyBrainX
- goddamnit riker!ernexbcn
- detritus1
^
Swearing.No. No, Star Trek, No.
- Continuity-1
God damn, I fucking hate this miserable series.
Effectively, what the producers have done is watch 'Equinox' (Parts 1 and 2) from Voyager, and decided to base what is shaping up to be an entire series premise around it, with this whole Project Porcini/Tardigrade the Truffle Pig bullshit. Basically, re-imagining the 'Equinox' two-parter. Ugh. And absolutely none of these fucking cunty characters is even the least bit likable, let alone believable.
Fuck this shit. I'd rather staple my bag to my leg, and watch 'Enterprise'.
- And yet, like the sucker that I am, I will keep watching because I'm starved for even a little bit of Trek.Continuity
- I had to look that up. I don't see what the similarity is but I don't remember this one very well.
https://www.youtube.…CyBrainX - I still think it's gotten off to the best start of any of the series so far.CyBrainX
- ETM0
I was flicking through the channels and caught the last half of ep. 3 again. I dunno, the more I think about it the more frustrating that they just didn't make it after the TNG/Voyager timeline. They wanted to update the tech, it would make more sense. They want a conflict, then they can have it without having to retcon existing lore. They want nuance through moral ambiguity, great, it makes more sense in the future where maybe the Federation is stretched and tested in a way that makes the Borg look like a Sunday afternoon.
The idea of this new warp tech is silly in the current context (but would be perfect in a future one). We know it doesn't exist over a hundred years later, so why? Either it fails or it's a black op that Section 31 buries and even dealing with the Borg, or losing Voyager they don't take out of moth balls.
They're too scared to operate without the crutch of nostalgia, even when it works against the narrative/premise.
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- I agree. It's still pretty awesome though..set
- I have faith they will explain these discrepancies. Some were mentioned on the first After Trek show. They tell too much in my opinion. I don't like spoilers.CyBrainX
- ^ Hope so...ETM
- Continuity0
I'm still waiting for the 'Star Trek' part of this show to kick in.
As it currently stands, I might even prefer 'Enterprise'.
- Yeah, I felt Trek a _little_ in episode 1 and 2, but this latest felt like something else entirely.ETM
- Felt like a combination of the BSG reboot (with its ambiguous morality) and the first Alien.Continuity
- Sigh. Never mind that the Klingons didn't get cloaking devices until STIII.Continuity
- ^ Oops. This belongs to i_monk's comment.Continuity
- I'm still not ruling out that this is in the Kelvin timeline. (JJ's universe).CyBrainX
- They said officially it's the prime timeline.ETM
- detritus0
Watching 3 now - my interest was piqued when they first made reference to Stamets, and Lo and behold, it's apparently to do with spores!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
You know you've made it in life when ST references you.
(Paul Stamets is like a God in mycology)
- Although leut. Stamets is a bit of a dick so far.detritus
- dopepope0
The Orville is waaaay more Star Trek than this. I'm enjoying both shows tho. The Orville might as well be the next season of TNG.
- Yeah, I mentioned earlier how it surprised me with it's stories so far, and the comedy is not as invasive or slapstick as expected. Episode 3 was really good.ETM
- I think I'm going to have to watch this, despite the mixed reviews.Continuity
- drgs-4
No one will watch it because captain is a woman
- Voyager seemed to have done well ...Continuity
- ^detritus
- We all want the series to succeed. But it's like an eye leucoma for me, as if something's in the way -- I no longer see characters,all I see are the producersdrgs
- having a meeting, discussing what the "correct" cast needs to be... and it throws me out of the storydrgs
- False alarm, this guy is playing the captain:
http://www.imdb.com/…
Its going to be awesome!!drgs - lol such a trollset
- Not true. If she's got big tits I will.Hayzilla
- i_monk1
So a mushroom warp engine? This is what we're watching?
- Project Porcini™Continuity
- I thought it was going to be testing a cloaking device to match the Klingons.ETM
- scarabin0
i like how the orville fills in all the humor we're missing from the new star trek
- Fuck Seth McFarlane. Any one of us can impersonate Shatner and quote Star Trek for a living.CyBrainX
- and we've had enough buffoonery (in the guise of humor) in Star Trek. That's how you end up with Kirk as a woman, twice.CyBrainX
- Orville is actually quite a surprise. Good stories with mostly subtle humour so far. Episode 3 was pretty deep.ETM
- drgs-2
It sucks
- syfy...helloeatbreathedrive
- Considering how polarizing Star Trek is, I'm pretty impressed this is the first dislike I've seen.CyBrainX
- PonyBoy0
- John Tesh was a halodeckKlingon in Worf's right of ascension ritual. Iggy Pop was an alien and Mick Fleetwood was a fisheaded alien. I could go on.CyBrainX
- I remember Iggy Pop in DS9... didn't know about John Tesh or Mick FleetwoodPonyBoy
- Christian Slater, The Rock, Kelsey Grammer, Adam Scott, Andy Dick, Tom Hardy, Ron Perlman, Sarah Silverman, heck, Kurtwood Smith was 3 different characters.Akagiyama
- Clint Howard played 2 characters separated by 30 years. Ashley Judd, Terri Hatcher, Terri Garr, Jean Simmons brought down bigger men than Picard, Lurch, RiddlerCyBrainX
- jonathan banks, terry oquinn, diedrich baderhotroddy
- PonyBoy0
- I think it was their goal all along. As prosthetic art evolves, klingon's will look more alien. Who wants an alien race to look like we do?hotroddy
- There was an Enterprise episode that explained how a virus altered Klngons genetically after Kirk's era.CyBrainX
- The Discovery writers said there will be an explanation for their version too.CyBrainX
- Wasn't the genetic virus caused by Tribbles?Akagiyama
- It was caused by Data's creator, Noonian Soong. His genetic alterations to humans created a virus that spread to Klingons.CyBrainX
- http://memory-alpha.…CyBrainX
- ^^the makeup seen in the films and the later series would have been too expensive during the 1960shotroddy
- i_monk0
↑ It looks good with colours inverted too ↓