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- _niko1
- Nope. Still not a belief system. Just a way to figure shit out.monospaced
- Ha ha Mono. Still barking up that tree? There are two things on that that are based on probability, not fact. Keep on believing the hype.Morning_star
- hype.Morning_star
- yeah, probabilities based on scientific knowledge... all part of the process of figuring things out... not a belief systemmonospaced
- probabilities are a way of saying we know "this much" about something, but aren't cunts and claim to know it allmonospaced
- NO. No its not. Probability is the chance of something happening or exisiting. It's not 'we know 80% and we've just got to fill in the gaps'.Morning_star
- in the gaps'. For instance, there is a chance (probability) that the Higgs particle does not exist. Its uncertainty in mathmatical form.Morning_star
- Yes, exactly. Science poses probabilities that are correct, instead of a dogmamonospaced
- <that 9-mile, underwater city would be pretty dark after about 100 meterssarahfailin
- Mono, wants to believe.yurimon
- "pretty dark"? we have artificial light. and by then probably something that simulates sunlight.iCanHazQBN
- scarabin1
i think the problem with the topic is the term itself. not only because "belief system" lacks any specific definition here. there's nothing inherently wrong in believing something, only in believing something that shows very little evidence of being true. (morning_star's probablity)
dawkins breaks belief down further into a five-tier heirarchy of sources:
evidence, tradition, authority, faith, and revelation.
a comparison of the properties of each source shows that science and religion do not occupy the same intellectual turf at all. faith might be the closest, but the kind of faith required by science only needs last until evidence for a better explanation comes along. this is the important difference between religion and science. science willingly updates itself based on evidence and observation while religion requires unconditional faith even when all evidence points to the opposite of what is being held as "truth".
- Religion for mass consumption requires faith. mysticism effects the physiology and enhances the senses. Makes it a tool of for knowledge wisdom and growth.yurimon
- knowledge, wisdom and spiritual growth. relevant experiences. 2nd of some religious archetypes have been converted to science.yurimon
- and there is a link to science progressing from mysticism.yurimon
- mysticism doesn't affect physiology you fucknutmonospaced
- Morning_star-1
^ I absolutely agree.
It always troubles me that the atheist/materialist view is that science is a valid and logical replacement for religion. It isn't. Most of us understand the issues/constrictions with the faith required for religion but there are similar issues on the very edges of scientific discovery.
- the only people who think science is a "replacement" for religion are the religious people, btwmonospaced
- Fact is, scientific discoveries are so discredting to biblical/religious tenants that it is often seen as the exact oppositemonospaced
- when in fact, it isn't... science just reveals the measurable truth about reality, while religion barely speculatesmonospaced
- "Valid", "logical", "religion".
That's a mess right there.MrT
- ukit21
They are both just attempts to understand the world around us. Imagine how confusing the world must have been to a bunch of humans running around in the jungle. Thinking you had to sacrifice a goat or something to make it rain might have made sense when you barely had the ability to leave your island, much less understand how the weather works.
- exactly... the point is that religion's "attempt" is really not an attempt, but instead a lazy guess that nobody questionsmonospaced
- science is at least a process of understanding, which has provided tons of informationmonospaced
- If people were running around confused then the species wouldnt survive. can you get above profane point of view?yurimon
- You seem to be under the impression that religion or more to the point, spirituality has nothing to add to the human endeavour of explaining the universe. I just don't believe that science provides all the answers...yet?Morning_star
- endeavour of explaining the universe. I just don't believe that science provides all the answers...yet?Morning_star
- of course it doesn't, and it never did, but it has concrete evidence of answers that the bible can only guess atmonospaced
- sarahfailin1
Keep this religion vs science crap in the religion thread. I frankly don't care to be bothered with it.
- that's what I said, though apparently that is how this thread started...inteliboy
- yeah, the TOPIC of this thread is about how it's not a belief systemmonospaced
- yurimon-1
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- scarabin1
yurimon goes to the museum
- Haha, you wish.yurimon
- :)scarabin
- She has to be one of the most annoying and ignorant people i have ever had the displeasure to listen to._niko
- watching this, i just want to keep asking her over and over again, "Are you retarded?"_niko
- No need to ask********
- she's hlariousGnash
- this is how I imagine yurimon's thought process when confronted with scientific conclusions on realitymonospaced
- lolorganicgrid
- HAHAHAmoldero
- This shit is soo good!moldero
- World's Thickest Cunt™detritus
- IRNlun61
Why is there something rather than nothing?
- yurimon-1
http://www.inquisitr.com/1638338…
Scientists Discover An Invisible Shield Surrounding Earth, Baffled At How It Formed
- yurimon-1
Joaquin Flores, Fourth Generation Warfare theory.
Has tech, science, politics, every subject rolled up in one, like a joint for your ears to smoke.
- Tell me that you listened to this for an hour and half?organicgrid
- scarabin1
- Titan: river of farts********
- Rain in Korea: http://4.bp.blogspot…sarahfailin
- oh myscarabin
- The Korean word for rain is pronounced "pee".i_monk
- i was gonna make a joke about wanting rain on me until you turned it into a golden showers remarkscarabin
- lolmoldero
- Titan: river of farts
- yurimon-1
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