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- detritus3
Bring back Polio!
- scarabin0
- that could be you.yurimon
- could but isn'tmonospaced
- any could be called names. doesnt impress me.yurimon
- nobody's trying to impress you, derpmonospaced
- you know the guy who came up with the law of thermal dynamics. his law took 10 years to become standard. they thought it was crazy,yurimon
- There are 4 laws, and they were discovered by several people over the course of 100 years. Nobody said they were crazy, math supported it 100%monospaced
- the original guy. do some bio research.yurimon
- It's not attributed to an "original guy" that I know of. Lord Kelvin? Carnot?monospaced
- lol @ yuri suggesting he's an undiscovered geniusscarabin
- i love how you demand we do research but you don't even know his namescarabin
- I happen to have studied this extensively at a University, and I can assure you nobody said the laws were crazy in light of evidence.monospaced
- Oh yes they did, I have to find the source. i wont have time to look through it.yurimon
- remember the guy who told doctors that germs create disease? they though he was crazy and arrogant for making drs' wash their hands. cmmon.yurimon
- yeah, science wins in the end. not belief systems like "don't bother washing your hands"scarabin
- Holy shit did you really just make the same reference as in 12 Monkeys? Is your only source of education what you read on the Internet?monospaced
- LOLmoldero
- no the guy who discovered germs. doctors were insulted that they had to wash their hands.yurimon
- Yes. That was Brad Pitts line in the film. Also your argument is really for the vaccination side if this is your example.monospaced
- Morning_star0
Hey Yuri
Not wishing to sound too dramatic but your post below is dangerous. just have a read of the link I've included.
Having waded through the bollocks and bullshit of the MMR debate about 8 years ago in the UK (I have two kids who required vaccinations at the time) your post, whilst alarming on the surface, is horse shit of the highest order.
The simple fact is, that the time in a child's development when vaccinations are needed is the same time that they are likely to develop, or show signs of developing, the illnesses falsely linked with vaccines. Correlation does not mean causation. And this is a subject too important to muddy with ignorant crap.
Sincerely.
Vaccines work.: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine…
- Some people have side effects. i know someone who died from a flu vaccine. so needs more study. something is up. There are those who worked in the vaccine bizyurimon
- say something different. still looking into this but even those who vaccinated against a particular disease end up getting it. not so cut n dry.yurimon
- morningstar, thank you for posting thismonospaced
- yeah now he finally could masturbateyurimon
- What are you, 11?monospaced
- maybe vaccines arent what they used to be? http://blogs.wsj.com…yurimon
- yuri is a conspiracy sheep of the highest degreeinteliboy
- figures yuri is an anti-vaccerscarabin
- not saying its conspiracy but more people getting side effects, something is up. quality or process? so what up with that?yurimon
- No more people aren't getting symptoms. That's just bad info.monospaced
- I know some who died after flu vaccine. i see parents have children reactive poorly after vaccinations more then before. something changedyurimon
- do you understand how vaccines work? do you know why they work?scarabin
- Yes, we were told how they work. Still doesnt explain people who die or have side effects from them.yurimon
- why dont you explain how children develope allergies after vaccination, were they had non before. its a small but increasing %. so explain, something goinonyurimon
- They're not connected.monospaced
- How is not connected. You have an immune response from an immunization shot? within the week of getting one. cause and effect. its same thing for others. jyurimon
- same pattern, oh must a coincidence.yurimon
- vaccinations don't cause allergies... children develop them around the same time they receive shots... it's that simplemonospaced
- they can also expose vaccinations, but being allergic to something and thinking vaccinations are causing deaths are very different issuesmonospaced
- expose *allergiesmonospaced
- yurimon0
- not a belief systemmonospaced
- intellectual tunnel vision and dont even know it.yurimon
- feeling so unclean at the moment.. going to have a shower nowautoflavour
- uhhhh... this is pure fact, it requires no leap of the mind to grasp, and understanding it does not mean one has intellectual tunnel visionmonospaced
- you are focusing on a narrow aspect that was not the point of the discussion that started the statement. i'm sure you are aware of it or maybe not.yurimon
- I am aware I am focusing on the point of the discussion that started the whole thread. Lol. I'm not sure you are aware of this threads actual topic.monospaced
- I'm not sure you are aware but it wasnt the spirit of the discussion. I dont think you are aware.yurimon
- I'm not sure either of you are aware.set
- yuekit0
A Surprise for Evolution in Giant Tree of Life
Researchers build the world’s largest evolutionary tree and conclude that species arise because of chance mutations — not natural selection.
- To be fair, title overstates the case a little. What it is really saying is that random mutations are a bigger factor than environmental changes.yuekit
- only glanced at the article, but that's pretty much my inderstanding of natural selection. There are random mutation, and the ones that fit well withESKEMA
- the current environment succeed better than the others.ESKEMA
- really interesting article thxutopian
- so yo accept that there's a God if there's chance :)Beeswax
- utopian0
- dat retardmoldero
- Ken!. His argument basically boils down to "Were you there Mr Scientist?, then how can you know for certain". Gotta love the dedication to delusion.Morning_star
- Same argument many here use too. It's pathetic.monospaced
- Who?Morning_star
- yurimonmonospaced
- ^yupmoldero
- I don't think L Ron Hubbard truly believed his own BS because he wrote it, but this guy right here though, is dumb as fuck.moldero
- Ironic that he looks like the damn missing linkdigitdaily
- wagshaft0
Regarding Dark Matter and Dark Energy. How scientists know it's there:
- i'm really skeptical about dark matter and energy. more likely a problem with our understanding of gravity than that 96% of the universe is made of dark stuffsarahfailin
- Word, and do you believe that science is committed to understanding it through scientific methods?monospaced
- It's a totally made up thing so their calculations work and they don't have to admit they have no fucking clue what they're doing...set
- Made up, or based on measurements. They've calculated mass and observable mass and there's a huge diffmonospaced
- The term for the missing matter is "dark" but it does fit some theoretical models, hence the push to figure it out.monospaced
- Nope. Not one thing is known about Dark mater/energy. Science blokes are speculating that Supersymmetry, the bolt-on fix to the Standard Model, will generate aMorning_star
- ...WIMP (a ‘camp’ particle) that will shine a light on what DM is. The evidence for supersymmetry will be found, or not, in the next few weeks at CERN.Morning_star
- If supersymmetry isn’t proven then the current model we have for the universe is a load of old bollocks.Morning_star
- What is known is that it has mass. Are you saying that there's nothing to account for the mass we can't observe?monospaced
- Dark Matter is a placeholder name for the stuff which we can barely detect by its gravity, but does not interact with matter in any other way.Morning_star
- Yeah, the only thing we've directly observed is greater gravity than we can account for based on what matter is visible.sarahfailin
- http://i2.kym-cdn.co…set
- Morning_star0
Regarding: Theory and fact
The article in the previous post is an argument that shouldn't be necessary to make. Having to rationalise scientific methods as though there is some validity to the creationist argument is crazy. Creationists will not, even when face with scientific evidence, change their minds. For example >
However, the authority that scientific theory can have over Creationists, for instance, is not universal. There are arguably no 'facts' that can be woven into a theory when talking about Dark Matter/Energy or Gravity or Consciousness, to name just a few. In these situations, sciences best guesses are just that, guesses or predictions. That doesn't mean they have no scientific value but until the LHC or other experiments create the necessary particles there are no facts, even after the experiments the results are probabilities not facts.
- no facts? you've got to be fucking kidding me, there are entire fields dedicated to those areasmonospaced
- neurobiologists, neurosurgeons, astrophysicists, etcmonospaced
- Shes right that macro evolution is not an observed or proven, inter species evolution is not proven. micro evolution within species is more establishedyurimon
- However I forgot the term but there is dna contamination from other species. for example 90% of you is bacteria other organisms. dogs have human dna.yurimon
- dawkins could not get laid.yurimon
- Morning star talks sense.set
- @mono - could you show me one, that's ONE, measurable, repeatable, testable 'fact' (see definition in previous post) about the Dark Matter.Morning_star
- @yurimon - you're right that she does use some of the more wooly areas of evolutionary theory to undermine it. However, her arguments do not by any stretch ofMorning_star
- ...imagination, rock ts solid foundations.Morning_star
- georgesIII3
ENOUGH WITH SCIENCE,
BRING THE DARK AGE BACK!!
- _niko1
- so the US plans to have authority on the moon??ESKEMA
- other nations have plans toomonospaced
- that's idiotic. It's already idiotic on earth, on the moon it doesn't make sense at all..ESKEMA
- agreemonospaced
- We got there first.wagshaft
- ukit21
- I wonder if got any tape wormsyurimon
- something something scarabins fridgemoldero
- Yurimon, worms and other parasites only live in the digestive track. As long as you avoid that you're safe.GM278
- My dogs are on a raw food diet ... pre-prepared (not like this guy) and mimics what their wild diet would be)GM278
- < its not dangerous? some say you dont want dogs to get into the flavor of raw meat cause they may see u as lunchyurimon
- worms from pork make it into your brainmoldero
- And those live in the meatmoldero
- scarabin1
great article on "science woo", mentions "science is a religion" being a marketing thing
- "rational wiki", almost as well sourced as my dailymail post ehehehgeorgesIII
- i actually just spent a couple hours there reading their perspective on different thingsscarabin
- historicism, something new to me, goin to check it outyurimon
- GeorgesII1
- that's idioticscarabin
- he never said anything remotely along these lines eithermonospaced
- Dawkins invented the meme you knowreanimate
- monospaced1
No belief necessary. ^
- what grade meat used? organic?yurimon
- http://metabolicheal…yurimon
- Dumbassmonospaced
- < fart knuckles.yurimon
- Mono if it was early 1900's you'd be the one who'd say that "Space travel is impossible, Dumbass"yurimon
- no I wouldn't, and your "analogy" makes no fukcing sense whatsoevermonospaced
- If you base everything on current institutionalized scientific knowledge of any time yes it doesyurimon
- Your basically judge everything on old assumptions programmed into you by institutions. yay or nay?yurimon
- yuri needs to shit or get off the pot, either you believe in JESUS and the earth is 6k years old you dontmoldero
- < lay off the pipe son. dont pigeon hole people. thats racist. I post things hoping for an exploratory dialogue 99% of the timeyurimon
- time. sonyurimon
- dude, all I'm saying is that science is going on, and you don't have to believe in anything except the process...monospaced
- we are in agreement and you just fuckng don't get it you fucking weirdomonospaced
- Oh I get it alright.yurimon
- scarabin1
it seems like it's just a semantic battle at the point and at the end of the day no matter who wins christianity is still ridiculous and awful
- this goes for all faith or just xtianity? (just curious)PonyBoy
- i'm being facetious here but i think abrahamic religions are foremost in our minds when we talk about dogmatic religionscarabin
- they're the big violent onesscarabin
- Well politicals + religion is same thing as satanism. so. all bullshit. when it comes to subversion of people for sake of keeping u a slave.yurimon
- slaveyurimon
- i opt out of all of itscarabin
- uan1
theoretical physics is theoretical. that means it's not proven.
theory is an instrument of science to project into the unknown. it's assumptions based on proven science and observation to try to explain things we don't understand yet but we wish to explore.
And science also allows for proven facts to be revised, whenever someone proves it's wrong by an experiment.Science is a methodical process, not a belief system.
- It should be, but it isn't.Morning_star
- The process of believing methods and theories, fo realzyurimon
- It's actually true Morningstar. Stop bein an idiot saying it isn't without any regard for the tomes of proof that it is.monospaced
- I'm bored of your general, surface level proclamations. You're wrong, you always are. When the surface is scratched and I try to engage in a detailed debate you run away like the shallow believer you are. Sit down and shut up.Morning_star
- and I try to engage in a detailed debate you run away like the shallow believer you are. Sit down and shut up child.Morning_star
- Really?monospaced
- If your first comment here isn't a "surface level" or "general" proclamation then I don't know what is. Child.monospaced
- I'm not wrong. If I'm wrong then so are all the astrophysicists, cosmologists and relativity theorists that have ever lived.monospaced
- You seem to be under the impression that all scientists working at the edges of discovery agree with each other's theories. They don't. At all.Morning_star
- other. They don't. Conflicting and competing theories are rife.Morning_star
- ukit21
They are both just attempts to understand the world around us. Imagine how confusing the world must have been to a bunch of humans running around in the jungle. Thinking you had to sacrifice a goat or something to make it rain might have made sense when you barely had the ability to leave your island, much less understand how the weather works.
- exactly... the point is that religion's "attempt" is really not an attempt, but instead a lazy guess that nobody questionsmonospaced
- science is at least a process of understanding, which has provided tons of informationmonospaced
- If people were running around confused then the species wouldnt survive. can you get above profane point of view?yurimon
- You seem to be under the impression that religion or more to the point, spirituality has nothing to add to the human endeavour of explaining the universe. I just don't believe that science provides all the answers...yet?Morning_star
- endeavour of explaining the universe. I just don't believe that science provides all the answers...yet?Morning_star
- of course it doesn't, and it never did, but it has concrete evidence of answers that the bible can only guess atmonospaced
- scarabin1
interesting talk with chris hadfield
- dang, he just said there's a quart of water in every cubic foot of martian topsoilscarabin
- if that were the case, there'd be a measureable atmospheremonospaced
- it's not like you can squeeze out the H2O. It's part of the chemical composition and must be burned outGnash
- By comparison, earth soil has 10x the waterGnash
- yeah, i'm not imagining it's sitting in little bottles waiting for usscarabin
- Earth topsoil does not have that much water per cubic foot evenmonospaced
- ukit21
A pill to make you smart? Scientists' breakthrough in unlocking the brain's potential by returning it to child-like state
