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- monospaced0
Here's the thing, formed. Shareholders got used to a quick ride with the iPhone and iPad. Before that it was the iPod. There were huge gaps. Now investors are spoiled. They don't want the ride to end, but they need to be realistic. Yes, they SEEM to not be innovating, but I pretty much guarantee they're working on a lot behind the scenes. It's what Apple does, it's their DNA. I don't think they're just sitting there doing nothing, but some investors/analysts want you to.
The stock tumbling has just as much to do with those interested in shorting the company, as it does with actual concern. But since people are spoiled and afraid, the stock seems volatile. It's still silly to see that trend and equate it to ACTUAL lack of innovation, though. And like I have said repeatedly, it's only been two years, people need to be realistic about innovation timelines.
- I'm joyous that I dumped my Apple stocks at killer profit!!!utopian
- from a shareholder perspective there has been very little change in the stock. What they lack in growth they are making up for with buybacks and dividends.zarkonite
- up for with buybacks and dividends.zarkonite
- It's pretty standard stuff for public companies that want to transition out of their growth period.zarkonite
- Knuckleberry0
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Or what if it is some Orwellian 1984 device... Boom!!! Heade Exploadededededededed- well, it's just that people are focused on iOS devices as if that's all that Apple is doing...monospaced
- I happen to believe, strongly, that they're thinking forward, not stuck in the presentmonospaced
- AgreedKnuckleberry
- mg330
Fuck. I just typed up a long post and some weird sideswipe gesture when the keyboard is open will take you back to the previous page you were on. You can sort of grab the left edge and side scroll, and if you do it to quickly in just the right spot the keyboard goes away and you're on the previous page. Weird.
- swipe left is "back" in the browsermonospaced
- but it should not do it when the keyboard is engaged.mg33
- I hear yamonospaced
- formed0
I agree with everything said there. I wouldn't own the stock, not at this price. But as mono points out, you can counter any of those arguments (I just think they are correct).
For a stock (we are talking money/business/stock here, right, not "which do I like better"?), I much prefer Google for its diversity. They aren't relying on one thing, one shiny product, and they keep exploring new avenues to dominate the world (and make a gazillion while doing it).
Apple seems stagnant. They are slow. The competition is trying new things (the Moto X and HTC are far prettier phones, imho, I just hate Android...give me windows on HTC and I'll be first in line though). Nothing has changed. The processors and finger print things seems like incremental improvements and gimmick-y (albeit functional).
What they do have is build quality. God only knows why the rest of the industry can't figure out that people pay for quality and design has perplexed me for 15 years! So, that said, Apple could continue on w/o doing much more. But I wouldn't bet my money on it.
Their reluctance to create a cheaper phone significantly undermines the profit potential, and, so far, they haven't been able to tap China (we'll see, but the prices are too much now), or unwilling to do so.
Personally, I feel like they are still riding that wave. Nothing really new, nothing innovative. Kinda like a Porsche just adding a few more horsepower each year. Maybe it works, but Porsche would have died if they didn't make that SUV and diversify, not to mention the cheaper Boxster.
- monospaced is breaking the cardinal rule of investing, never get emotionally attached to a stock.utopian
- and please don't say you are not emotional. Read all of your responses...utopian
- I guess I broke a rule. But it has worked very well for me, as it has for you.monospaced
- I'm not as emotional as you think though, I'm not their ideal customer or anythingmonospaced
- monospaced0
Even under Steve's watch, Apple's innovation rate was 3-7 years between big products. And, it only lasted a little while in the scheme of things. Tim Cook has been at the helm for 2 years. So if you're claiming Apple has lost it's innovation, you're crying wolf too early. He's already promised big things next year, and that's right on target.
It's crucial to not get investor concerns and analyst jerkoff comments/assumptions confused with what Apple is actually doing. Saying they're not innovative because Samsung made a watch is ludicrous. And expecting them to disrupt a major market every year is also.
- Apple stock performance in the past year.
http://i.imgur.com/i…utopian - like i said in the second paragraph, investor concerns don't reflect Apple's innovation ratemonospaced
- and price is not reflective of it eithermonospaced
- Apple stock performance in the past year.
- monospaced0
I don't know why everyone is saying that Apple introduced fingerprint scanners. They are built in to every single laptop distributed at my company (100,000+ employees), and they're all Lenovo. These same laptops are distributed elsewhere. Fingerprint readers are basically common already, just not on phones.
- utopian0
Apple found to have conspired to raise e-book prices
- utopian0
Apple ducks billions in taxes
A report released Monday by Senators John McCain, R-Arizona, and Carl Levin, D-Michigan, charged that Apple "has used a complex web of offshore entities -- including three foreign subsidiaries the company claims are not tax resident in any nation -- to avoid paying billions of dollars in U.S. income taxes."
- vaxorcist0
!!!!why can't I play this game on an iPhone?!?!
- uhhh, just play it on any Android phone, duhmonospaced
- Sony own itanimatedgif
- fadein110
@monospaced - please research before you start relentlessly trolling. You are hugely irritating. Spread your wings and stop being Apple's bitch. Yawn
- please tell me what I haven't researchedmonospaced
- also, don't forget that it's you posting a note to me with no other purpose than to trollmonospaced
- I'm not trolling - those were genuine emotions... buy more diverse technology - you will be surprised.fadein11
- your assumptions are ridiculous; i don't own any apple productsmonospaced
- cool story brofadein11
- Seriously. You said it. What did I not research and why do you think I own only apple products?monospaced
- i_was0
Fuckinhg wankers
- utopian0
Apple Supply Audit Finds Use Of Underage Labor By Manufacturing Partner
- ernexbcn0
107 million iPads sold since 2010. That's pretty crazy, Microsoft needed 7 years to sell 70 million Xbox 360s.
- utopian0
Funny... I thought that Steve Jobs and Lance Armstrong shared commonalities but could quite put my finger on it, and now we find out that they were both ball-busting bullies!
- I personally never really like either one of them.utopian
- you never knew them either ;)monospaced
- AK_tiv470
If you want to fuck around with your computer all the time, and mess around with shitty hard to use software, and use it on a counter-intuitive interface so you can play video games and work all on a computer that will last maybe two years ,,,, then get a PC.
If you want to use your computer to get information and create and produce various forms of art on a computer that doesn't have all the anti-virus crap, crashing issues, etc.,etc.,etc., then buy a Mac.
They obviously thought about making a profit, but their corporate philosophy understands that you have to make something that is worth making, something that they are proud of making, not just willing to make a profit on. When you make a product like that, people will buy it.- <<<<<<<<++++++++ArmandoEstrada
- Lol at blanket statement stupidityalbums