OSX turning more and more into iOS

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  • Horp0

    Eskema, that is a beautifully romantic idea that doesn't reflect the truth at all in my opinion. In the early 90's when Apple had just about broken global and Sculley was the CEO, Apple products were about 5xmore expensive than anything available in PC land. It was quite a painful stretch to gain entry to the platform which had aggressively targeted design and publishing to find its purpose, and in doing so forced an antiquated industry into a one-horse technology-based new era. And they knew what they were doing. Art colleges were targeted for high visibility promotional campaigns and their program of subsidised purchases for students did much to make people commit, but very little to ease the pain of doing so.

    In order to remain 'competitive' in my second year of college I had to let blood to buy an LCII 4/40, a Mikrotek scanner, and an Apple laserwriter. The total bill was about £8k, and without it, as the college plainly explained to everyone at their mid-term reviews, I would be struggling to keep up on a course that had been re-programmed for digital devotion.

    The college computer room had about 12 Mac Classics, one scanner and one laswerwriter, and about 300 students in total across all years. Priority went to graduating students in year three and the MA course, and the poor slubs in years one and two, who couldn't stub the money for their own kit were forced into a sort of third class existence, putting their names on the roster for a half hour slot once every two weeks and knowing that an MA student could take their place as a priority case on a whim.

    So with due respect, i have to say that in my experience at least, what you said is utter horse shit.

  • ESKEMA0

    ^^ As you said, under Sculley's helm, not the founders vision. When Steve came back, with it came back the original philosophy too. But hey, I only had my first mac in 2002, so maybe it's just my romantic view of things..

    • I believe Steve dreamt of everyone using a Macmonospaced
    • + hardware at the time was sitll very expensive. I compare it to a RED vs Canon MKIII. still expensive but a lot less...ESKEMA
  • clearThoughts0

    A lot of people are going back to Avid.
    Final Cut X is anything but 'Pro'

  • benfal990

    the Cloud... its because of the Cloud. Y'know. The Cloud.

  • i_was0

    xcode is ridiculous, interface looks like i'm playing a tune in Itunes.

  • chossy0

    I have a good apple laptop which I used to use final cut pro on, when they released final cut prox I had my finger over the purchase button but then read some more about it and realised that my assumption I could use it for professional work was quickly dashed.

    I promptly bought the entire production premium suite for £800 and took on a freelance job which I used premier pro to edit. I paid for my adobe software with that job :D I haven't touched final cut pro since. Due to apple ruining the applications I use to make my living, I looked at PC's and so I then went out and specced up a PC which I built, which gave me great satisfaction. I will now no longer buy any apple products for professional use. Apple absolutely trampled all over their professional editing base when they released final cut pro x .

    I met an editor last week to chat about a graphic he wanted me to do we chatted about final cut pro x he said it was great, I asked him if he would ever do a paid job on it? he said no fucking way, a client wouldn't pay for something which can only do 60% of what they might need. Not that great then. He was using Avid to edit by the way. I am doing the graphic in AE which which I got with my production premium bundle :D

    • ah, the true storymonospaced
    • Monospaced you are actually insane? what on earth do you mean by true story?chossy
    • it's a joke, and of course I'm not insane. I was just saying that the truth comes out: you are actually slighted by Apple's decisionsmonospaced
    • decisions. Sorry to hear. But please, don't jump to assumptions and simply fall back on childish insults, it's unbecomingmonospaced
    • Are you not slighted as well monospaced? dear god you are retarded! and insanechossy
    • if you are not slighted. You just highlight your simple brain. Accepting dog shit for applications.chossy
    • I'm not slighted by the video editing stuff, and please stop calling me insane. I've said nothing to even warrant that.monospaced
    • I am not a video editor, it doesn't affect me. And I already sympathize with you, as I stated earlier. Just chill the fuck out, okay?monospaced
    • okay?monospaced
    • oh fucking hell! doing work on final cut pro X is painful... jump the gun and did a project one it...pango
    • i'm not really a editor... just side money kinda thing but still painful...pango
  • Horp0

    Sculley, appointed personally by Jobs as 'the only man for the job'.
    Jobs, who was ousted from his own company for having such extreme ideas he was killing its chances of survival.

    Sculley was only executing Jobs' vision at that time.

  • drgs0

    as predicted Spple more and more is turning into Microsoft

    • Spple? I smell lawsuit.ETM
    • from the Snapple people.ETM
    • Wassupple?Horp
    • wassabi?Kiko
  • jagara0

    I care about creative output, not much else. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Constantly upgrading software is super duper counterproductive and usually a total waste of time getting everything the way you want it (again.......).

    I was on windows XP for 10 years, then moved to windows 7. Bought a Mac with Snow Leopard on it. Don't know if I'll stick with OSX SL for that long, but my point is focusing on getting work done, not on having the latest shit.

    • New features not worth the hassle. Skip a lot of versions before you upgrade.jagara
    • im still on snow leopard in the office.set
  • inteliboy0

    Final Cut is being completely phased out of the editing house we cut at (in favor of Avid). Also I hate the faux-texture UI nonsense Apple are doing in certain OS apps.

    But let's be honest, people have been complaining for decades - no matter what these companies do. Whinge whinge whinge, when really, shit is getting faster and easier to do every year.

    • Thats true. I can now shit faster and easier than ever before. Especially after Mexican food.ian