Creationist designers?
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- GeorgesII1
Thanks Moldero for you post,
I was waiting for someone to make every doubts I had left, evaporate.
Are you a scientist?- nah just watched loyd pye doc the other night, that shit cray.moldero
- the cristal's skull guy,
he's cool,
I want to believeGeorgesII - yeah good stuff 4 sure, gets you thinking.moldero
- Watch this http://www.youtube.c…
part2 http://www.youtube.c…GeorgesII - Such a bore.whhipp
- thanks G, downloading it, i like watching stuff like this as sleepers, but sometimes it has the opposite effect,moldero
- gramme0
Someone asked me if I question what the Bible says about old earth vs. young earth creationism, and if so would I not be questioning the validity of Scripture in its entirety.
Fair questions, but first: I don't question the validity or authority of the Bible. Second, the original Hebrew word for "days," i.e. "On the first day, God made the heavens and the earth," can mean a large chunk of time: a generation, an age, an aeon. So there is some ambiguity in meaning there.
Either way, I believe all things tangible and intangible have their origin in God. And if he's capable of creating universes ex nihilo, I really don't give a shit if he decided to complete the work in 7 trillion years, 7,000 years, or 7 nanoseconds. He could've done whichever suited him. I tend to believe he's a fan of delayed gratification.
- Horp0
"Cool. So pretty much, you can bend anything in that book to suit your beliefs"
– CanHasQBNAnd so can you.
- Precisely displaying just how unreliable it is.CanHasQBN
- Its only the person reading it that is unreliable.Horp
- So I am unreliable because I understand days as days? If the 1000's of translators of this book wanted us to think somethingCanHasQBN
- something other than "days", surely they could have mentioned that it was in fact thousands or millions of days.CanHasQBN
- CanHasQBN-get a life, i believe gramme explained it very well right above.whhipp
- That depends on what your definition of "in fact" isORAZAL
- LOL. gramme did not explain shit. All he said is "days could mean trillions of years". All based on his personal opinion.CanHasQBN
- This kind of loose, baseless thinking holds no water against the standards upheld by science.CanHasQBN
- Oohh Science. Yeah, thats never wrong.whhipp
- The difference is, when science is wrong, it admits it's wrong, and continues forward.CanHasQBN
- It's not based on my personal opinion. It's based on the study of ancient Hebrew by many theologians.gramme
- Canhas, which modern, authority-commission... translation of the original ancient manuscripts are you working from?Horp
- ernexbcn0
God is the CEO of Church Inc. but he doesn't give interviews.
- God is retired, on a beach sipping a martini wondering what all the fuss is about.TheBlueOne
- No no no... that was Shawn StussyHorp
- what's the dif?TheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
BTW I dislike Creationist Designers the same way I dislike Christian rock music.
- I like Gramme though, he a proper gent.
mikotondria3 - But he doesn't bill himself as a creationist designer does he?TheBlueOne
- he does, but a long-view creationist where each "day" is a trillion years, as clearly stated in the biblemonospaced
- I also highly respect gramme and prefer to leave religion out of my opinion of him, especially as I steal his design ;)monospaced
- gramme, a true gent indeed.ORAZAL
- mono, you make me laugh, sir.
It clearly did mean a trillion years, now that we know it was.mikotondria3 - wrong again... the earth is not even 5 billion years old, and it wasn't habitable for billions of years after thatmonospaced
- I like Gramme though, he a proper gent.
- whhipp0
So non-creationists... tell me how do you believe, or should I say, know how life was created? Point to science, but actually tell me how life was created, since science has all the answers.
- it's all around you, all you have to do is open your eyesprophetone
- Okay, creationist. How did God create life? What chemicals did he start with? What did he DO?monospaced
- yeah chemicals man, CHEMICALS. WHATS THE FORMULA????Horp
- fadein110
my designs evolve man
- severian0
what created god?
- severian0
and what created the god that created god?
- BabySnakes0
Haven't you all seen BSG, you are Human mixed with Humans/Cylon Hybrids. From another part of the Galaxy.
- CanHasQBN0
Science doesn't have all the answers yet. It never claims to. We have hypotheses and best-educated guesses based what we are able to observe and test. Meanwhile, you have an old book full of fables written by peasants during a time we thought the Earth was flat.
whipp, are you disappointed that we haven't figured out everything there is to know about everything during the span of your tiny lifetime? LOL. Maybe if it wasn't for religious tyranny and the persecution of scientists, we'd be further along...
- such a joke.whhipp
- your religion? yes, it is a joke, eqyptians worshipped sun gods for 1000 years longer than your religion.aaux
- But now they're religion is considered ancient history. Just like christianity will be some day.aaux
- Science on the other hand, kinda still around and stuff.aaux
- Very true, still doesn't prove there is no God.whhipp
- If there is a god, he's a cruel piece of shit.aaux
- I respect your opinion.whhipp
- Science and religion came from the same source. which is religion.yurimon
- < yeah manmoldero
- whhipp0
So there is no scientific answer.
- nor one in the book of fablesprophetone
- Be precise, and state that you believe all books of religion are fables. Thats fine, but remember it is called faith.whhipp
- science is faith as well, we basically know nothing, accept thisprophetone
- we are all oneprophetone
- So basically in your mind, yours is a unproven theory... and creationist is an unproven theory... why the hate of it?whhipp
- i'm calm and accepting of it all, you're the one who's get'n all tic-tac'd about itprophetone
- I meant CanHasQBNwhhipp
- my bad. right on prophetonewhhipp
- ok, but you're still getting a little tic tac'y i gotta say, just throwing that one out thereprophetone
- it's all good tho, debate is fun!prophetone
- its all good. Look at CanHasQBN below, too funny. Debate is fun.whhipp
- What's funny is taking fables written 2000 years ago and using them as the basis of how we came to exist.CanHasQBN
- A modern day 1st-grader possesses more intelligence than the most intelligent person from 2000 years ago.CanHasQBN
- Stop holding these guys on such a pedestal. They were simply stupid and ignorant. There was nothing magical about that time period..CanHasQBN
- about that time period. No more magical than it is today.CanHasQBN
- whhipp0
So tell me... what is a fact in science that leads to non-creationism?
- The problem for you is, Creationism disproves itself. Eve created out of rib?...CanHasQBN
- Noah's Ark... two of each animal happily boarded onto a ship. Talking snakes...CanHasQBN
- The complete absurdity of this stuff alone disproves creationism. If you cannot recognize that book as a book of fables and talesCanHasQBN
- of fables and tales, then you need to check yourself into a mental institution.CanHasQBN
- So you have no scientific fact that disproves creationism?whhipp
- Nothing in science is fact as far as proving the origins of the universe. We have ideas and theories based on what we can observe...CanHasQBN
- observe.CanHasQBN
- How about this fact.. you can't make a person out of someone else's rib.CanHasQBN
- Snakes cannot speak to humans.CanHasQBN
- I could run facts all over creationism that disprove it... facts that don't even need testing.CanHasQBN
- And your pitiful defense would sound something like "miracles happen".CanHasQBN
- You assume too much. And you have no proof that a super natural being does not exist. So until you do keep an open mind to all possibilities or you might miss it.whhipp
- to all possibilities or you might miss it.whhipp
- And YOU don't have proof that there isn't a pair of Nike shoes orbiting Pluto right now... correct?CanHasQBN
- Therefore, based on your logic, there's a pair of Nike shoes orbiting Pluto at this moment.CanHasQBN
- ... because you can't prove me wrong.CanHasQBN
- There's also a planet out there made of plastic and looks exactly like a giant hockey puck...CanHasQBN
- ...right down to the NHL logo. Whipp, can you disprove this? No? Then my position stands that a hockey puck planet exists.CanHasQBN
- exists.CanHasQBN
- So the possible existence of a super natural being is compared to the possible existence of a pair of Nikes orbiting Pluto. Really? I would hope you know Life is a bit more spectacular than that.whhipp
- orbiting Pluto. Really? I would hope you know Life is a bit more spectacular than that.whhipp
- Right on. Believe what you want to believe. Just dont try to disprove what I believe without rock solid proof.whhipp
- AT LEAST I can prove that Nike's exist AND that Pluto exists. You can prove absolutely nothing!CanHasQBN
- Anyway the point of that was to show you how flawed you logic is. It is up to YOU to prove creationism. The onus is on YOU.CanHasQBN
- YOU.CanHasQBN
- Fun times CanHas.whhipp
- The funnest. See you in the gun thread!CanHasQBN
- lol :)moldero
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- lowimpakt0
i wonder how many "post-teen converted" creationists there are?
- I wonder how many post-teens can't read after graduating high-schoolmonospaced
- I was saved in my 20s after being atheist my whole life. (i am not really a designer though)
supersimple - People that do horrible things and are told if they accept jesus all is forgiven?aaux
- No wonder everyone in Jail is now saved and reborn.CanHasQBN
- whhipp0
Why only signal out Christianity. Do you only think Christianity is full of fables.
- Typically christians are the ones pushing creationism on others?aaux
- what aauuux saidmonospaced
- I don't single out Christianity. I will attack all other religions too. It just so happens that most of the religious people on this forumCanHasQBN
- Despite what you might believe, the only religious fundamentalists in US are Christian.TheBlueOne
- But go ahead and shiver under your blanket for the imaginary Sharia law arrival.TheBlueOne
- forum are believers in Christ.CanHasQBN