Shooting of the Day
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- Beeswax1
I think blaming cops is missing the whole issue again.
Those cops carry glocks, someone wrote, the terrorist has AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and high-capacity magazines.
Cops' bullets wouldn't even penetrate his kevlar.The main issue is YOU DO NOT SELL ASSAULT RIFLES TO CITIZENS.
Of course they should have still stormed in and try to injure or kill him however is possible.
But the problem is systemic, that's also the reason why cops are trigger happy in the US.
They don't feel safe and you have to rely on some heroic individuals in these cases to sacrifice his life.- <<<THIS
the clue is in the name - it's not a defence rifle, ffs, so why does a citizen need one?hans_glib - it's fucking stupid to allow section 1 firearms into the hands of the general public.hans_glib
- True but have you seen the video of parents telling those cops to go in??
Many cops with tactical gear holding long rifles.Ramanisky2 - Wasn't there an incident fairly recently where a citizen shot at a mass shooter and killed him, but when the police turned up they shot him dead too?PhanLo
- Sometimes I think their obesity and the corn syrup makes them a bit retarded.PhanLo
- If you saw video ALL of the cops had high power rifles and body armor. They didn’t just have glocks. This is bulkshit. They pussed out.monospaced
- <<<THIS
- Ramanisky21
“As horrible as what happened, it could have been worse. The reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do...because of their quick response...they were able to save lives.”
- Texas Gov Greg Abbott
Get fucked you worthless lying cunt.
- “With the benefit of hindsight, where I’m sitting now, of course it was not the right decision, it was the wrong decision, there was no excuse for that,”fooler
- PonyBoy1
FFS... Musicians etc are canceling shows out of respect / love for those lost in Texas... meanwhile the NRA moves forward w/it's convention in fucking HOUSTON... Trump and Cruz are supposed to speak there today.
NRA opens gun convention in Texas after school massacre
- Class actnbq
- No guns allowed inside.
LMAO what a joke.Ramanisky2
- coleridge0
When specially equipped federal immigration agents arrived at the elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday, the local police at the scene would not allow them to go after the gunman who had opened fire on students inside the school, according to two officials briefed on the situation.
The agents from Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrived at some point between 12 p.m. and 12:10 p.m., according to the officials — far earlier than previously known. But they did not breach the adjoining classrooms of the school where the gunman had locked himself in until a little before 1 p.m. Members of the federal tactical team killed the gunman.
The officials said that members of the Uvalde Police Department kept the federal agents from going in sooner.
The new details deepened questions about the tactics used to respond to the shooting and the length of time it took officers on the scene to end the carnage.
The director of the Texas Department of Public Safety was expected to hold a news conference about the shooting and the police response on Friday morning.
The federal agents reported that they arrived to a scene of chaos — people pulling children out of windows while the local police, carrying only handguns and a few rifles, were trying to secure a perimeter, according to one official, who like the other spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
The Border Patrol and ICE agents did not understand why they were left to wait, according to the official. Eventually, the specialized Border Patrol team went into the building.
Texas law enforcement officials have said that the gunman was locked in a pair of adjoining classrooms and had already shot a number of students there in the first few minutes; with him pinned down there, they said, the local police initially focused on evacuating students and teachers from elsewhere in the school.
Law enforcement officers had initially tried to enter the classroom but fell back after the gunman fired on them, injuring two officers, state law enforcement officials said.
Most if not all of the 21 victims in the attack, including 19 students and two teachers, died in the area where the gunman, identified as Salvador Ramos, had locked himself in. The gunman was fatally shot by the federal team that entered the rooms more than an hour after the initial 911 call of a man with a gun outside the school, which came around 11:30 a.m.
The federal officers had driven up from the Mexican border, one official said. The official said it was not clear to the federal agents why their team was needed, and why the local SWAT team did not respond.
- nb2
The NY Yankees have has stopped tweeting game coverage and replaced it with gun stats
- Ramanisky23
Hero Cops indeed.
- Cops went into the school to pull their own kids out and left, There's also an 18 minute gap in the police radio.
Fucking pig bastards.face_melter - 'they believe' that all the kids were shot by the gunman and not by anyone else. which probably means they did actually shoot some of the kids.face_melter
- Filthy Goof For Nothing Pigs!utopian
- The truth is out there.utopian
- Cops went into the school to pull their own kids out and left, There's also an 18 minute gap in the police radio.
- imbecile0
K-12 School Shooting Database
https://www.chds.us/ssdb/data-ma…1738 Shootings
576 Fatalities
1615 Injuries- "I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands" – National Rifle Association (NRA)utopian
- Ramanisky23
This poor family. So heartbreaking.
- So sad. The ripples from this atrocity will be far reaching.mort_
- Ramanisky23
Ted Cruz is such a slimy fucking snake.
- monospaced5
Turns out police were on scene within minutes, fully armed with assault rifles and ... surprise ... did nothing. For an hour. Except taze and pepper spray frantic parents as they screamed in agony as their children were being murdered outside. Those cops have some serious answering to do.
- The primal screaming of parents for the cops to do something, anything, is something I can’t un hear.monospaced
- ShamefulYakuZoku
- Pretty much negates anyones argument that more cops protecting schools will help.monospaced
- Third World Police Stateutopian
- Meanwhile in Texas....Texas Governor Abbott and Texas Senator Cancun Cruz praised the police and first responders for their bravery and a job well done.utopian
- also reports that cops went inside and got their own kids out of there.Ramanisky2
- Seriously utopian!?monospaced
- ^JeezosPhanLo
- yuekit3
Something I have never heard pro gun people explain...if the Second Amendment means no regulation of "arms" at all then where does this end? Does it mean Americans can openly walk around with Javelins and NLAWS like in Ukraine? Should anyone be allowed to walk to the store and buy weapons that can shoot down a small aircraft like Al Qaeda? How about chemical weapons, nuclear weapons...
The Second Amendment doesn't clarify any of this, it just says "a well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." At the time the most powerful weapon available to the average person were guns that were extremely primitive by today's standards.
As far as I'm aware none of the so-called experts on the Supreme Court have ever articulated any clear reason why some arms can be banned and others can't. One thing you would have to conclude is that the "founding fathers" were not exactly geniuses if they couldn't write this amendment more clearly, also they capitalize random words like a bad PR writer.
- I think most of the idiots don't make it past 'the right to keep and bear arms', wilfully or otherwise.BuddhaHat
- Biggest idiots think it’s a religious text and that it’s a god given right. The stupid is overwhelming.monospaced
- Ramanisky23
This is insane.
The killer was in there for 40 min.https://apnews.com/article/uvald…
Cops stood outside the school while the killer rampaged inside. Onlookers yelled at them to go in. They didn’t.
Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said he raced to the school when he heard about the shooting, arriving while police were still massed outside the building.
Upset that police were not moving in, he raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders.
“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to.”
- Texan conservatives are all talk, fucking cowards.BuddhaHat
- i guess its a surprise no many people, cops are not obligated to risk their own life. good guy with guns am i right!pango
- No surprise! Looking to this bunch of obese pigs, wearing their ready-fo-war expensive arms and "outfit". It's patheticOBBTKN
- cops have no duty to protect people - only property.face_melter
- "to serve and protecc"grafician
- grafician-1
"Ted Cruz proposes armed cops in elementary schools to deter school shootings
Clowns
- https://www.business…grafician
- There are already armed cops at many schools. I think this shooter got past two armed guards unless I’m mistaken.monospaced
- maybe start investing in homeschooling startups...grafician
- :/ seriously?monospaced
- yes
parents worry around here at most their kid getting bullied over his sneakers or starting smoking early in high school
that's basically itgrafician - @mono bro no kidding you have like 2-3 kids I'd seriously considering homeschooling no doubt
or moving to fucking Europegrafician - consider*grafician
- Not all of the US is this gun saturatedmonospaced
- LOL
is there anything wrong with the US that monospaced won't try to save face about?! :))))grafician
- PonyBoy3
Curious... given there are more guns in the USA than citizens... how would the Gov go about making them illegal / collecting them? Could you imagine the fucking bloodbath if the Gov repealed the 2nd Amendment and attempted a house to house collection from those not willing to give them up?
We are indeed fucked.
- Ban guns in Texas for starters?
Yeah...grafician - People could and would hand over illegal weapons as proven by programs where they tested it. And it wouldn’t be a blanket ban on all guns either.monospaced
- Point is, if you focus on the fact that it can’t happen all at once you might not do anything at all. Start with at least getting some guns removed.monospaced
- Then move on to stop selling certain guns. Maybe stop making them for sale at all. Baby steps.monospaced
- Government could buy guns and offer rewards. Don’t imagine there would be an expectation to magically get rid of all guns overnight. It would take decades.monospaced
- LOL mono
mate you can get a gun in many countries with the proper permit
nobody is stopping you
nobody needs one either around heregrafician - you guys are fucking clowns with this gun shitshowgrafician
- When you say 'illegal' guns are you talking about the massive lot not included in the official count sold on the streets?PonyBoy
- ...or are you talking about purchases that appeared to be made legally but may have been achieved via a loophole etc?PonyBoy
- I’m talking about the guns that might be deemed illegal at some point. I don’t think any are now.monospaced
- graf, at no point did I mention anything to do with acquiring guns in another country but thanks for the random and unrelated commentmonospaced
- My point is just that if we convince ourselves we can’t get all the guns we shouldn’t give up on at least trying to get some of them out of circulationmonospaced
- Otherwise we are indeed fucked. I’m just so sad that this keeps happening and it’s still too easy to go buy guns and ammo.monospaced
- If people do hoard illegal weapons, they will either not be used for crime or they will at some point. Eventually they will surface.monospaced
- what are you talking about you can get guns in the US at wallmart or something
why tf can teens get guns in the US?!grafician - We are talking about regulation. Read instead of asking what I’m talking about.monospaced
- Stop pointing out obvious and irrelevant points we all moved on from long ago.monospaced
- no, really, why teens are allowed to buy guns?!
fucking clowngrafician
- Ban guns in Texas for starters?
- Ramanisky24
happened just a few minutes ago
- Who's the fuckwit yelling out "sick son of a bitch"? Arseholes.BusterBoy
