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- TheBlueOne0
Well now that Poll Denialism has set in with the GOP, it will lead to the whole "the election was stolen" meme, which will dovetail nicely with the fantasy groundwork they've laid with this voter fraud bullshit.
An incredible framework of nothing that relates to reality.
- seriouslymonospaced
- yep gotta fight fire with fire sometimes... 2000 Hanging chads... lol how soon you forget.whhipp
- utopian0
Romney campaign seeks to lower debate expectations!
If it wasn't already clear that Mitt Romney and his allies are trying to lower expectations heading into next Wednesday's debate against President Obama in Denver, the campaign is now making it official.
In a memo about the debates distributed to campaign surrogates and provided to CNN on Thursday, longtime Romney adviser Beth Myers outlines a series of reasons why the president is likely to emerge as the winner of the first debate.
Fucking Moron Mormon®
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn…
- yurimon0
I think it Ironic in how people talk about these candidates here. There is really no major difference. Its almost like brand perception. The psychology of presentation and personal bias. Like McDonalds or BK.
Obama talks well but his policies are bush. Accept for Obamacare.
Which is a Tax and was sold as "its not a Tax".
He seems like a man for the people but his executive orders Like NDAA are far from it and his policy encourages reliance on Government for economy(benefits)... Obama is More socialist in bringing about the change of federalization and expansion of federal power. (Look up the term "Duck Diner")
If he was for the people, he wouldnt have bailed out the banks. It would have been cheaper to bail out the people if he had to choose. He also abuses executive privilege like bush did thwarting investigations against him. I learned it from Bush.Romney is not that different then Obama. His Romney Care is same garbage. Problem is he not as smooth in lying like obama is.
His policy pitch for smaller government is just more fascist way of federalization and federal expansion. You will see more contracts and responsibility given to corporations. His Approach to federalization is welfare for corporations. But you never know, They all follow same platform set up by their Corporate sponsors.The path is going toward the same direction and your basically
choosing your own destroyer of the republic at election time.Under both candidates you will see continuing expansion of federal power, reaching beyond constitutional authority. Police state expansion.
You will see more wealth transfer to Corporations and squeeze on middle class.
Guantanamo bay will still be open for business and War will still be expanding in the Middle East. Federal expansion will keep on going.
You will not find solutions to any national problem in washington for sure. just bribery, corruption to benefit expansion of control and feeding the business interests of big corporation who are owned by the few on top.
End Game is Oligarchy hidden behind a wall bureaucracy.
- aaux0
You seem to be ignoring the other major issue for voters which is that a republican president would essentially rubber stamp every batshit crazy thing the GOP in congress votes on. Gay marriage? Federal ban! Evolution in classrooms? Banned!
- Maybe true maybe not. When there is an agenda they seem to pass it along. I think bipartisanship is Hegelian dialectic and illusion of choice.yurimon
- dialectic and illusion of choice.yurimon
- Maybe not? You live on earth?aaux
- Name one single thing from the GOP he's come out against in any way?aaux
- Dude you are arguing same crap. Change is going to happen. Just choose your method of destruction.yurimon
- Oh my Gay Marriage is so important. Not. Evolution has no credibility anyways and should be taught a such.whhipp
- You of all people should be against government mandates about personal life choices.aaux
- "Evolution has no credibility anyways" wow. Not much I can say about that.aaux
- So basically I'm voting for obama to keep nutbags like you from determining policy, good enough reason?aaux
- Evolution has no credibility? Now you're just stupid.monospaced
- I completely understand yurimon now.aaux
- yeah, anyone who thinks religion offers any credibility is batshit insane in my bookmonospaced
- You voting is not going to accomplish anything. who cares about gay marriage. its non issue.yurimon
- it might be a non-issue, but the republicans historically exploit the religious right with such trivial issues to win electionsmonospaced
- exploit their ignorance and blind faith and, let's face it, terrible education and udnerstanding of lifemonospaced
- Just admit you're a fundy and be done with it, please.aaux
- there is no concrete evidence for evolution nor creationism- all i say is that it shouldnt be taught that it is fact either way. Or teach both for that matter. Dick!whhipp
- why not expand to teach both. I dont care, but to push someone elses beliefs out for your own is lame as well.whhipp
- Because creationism is religion and offers nothing of any scientific value.aaux
- Again, you are exactly why I wouldn't vote for anyone in the GOP at this point.aaux
- yurimon0
You guys are arguing on who is better stalin or hitler, Coke or Pepsi.
Like I said the direction is the same. The method of delivery or philosophy will vary by candidate.
Do you want to take the bus or do want to travel by car?
Thats the extent of the choice. The destination goal is set and it is a one way ticket baby.Freedom is not a multiple choice equation.
- Are married gays allowed on the bus ?mikotondria3
- I think the argument that they're both the same is lazy and thoughtless. And a cop out. It's the conspiracy of the 21st C.mikotondria3
- Why would anyone need or want permission from the state to get married?yurimon
- License= The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort.yurimon
- would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort.
understand? noyurimon - So you're fine with the GOP banning gay marriage?aaux
- up to the states. Bush was in for 8 years buddy- gay marriage isnot banned and abortion is still legal-stop it already.whhipp
- tired and old talking points that dont matter.whhipp
- mikotondria3, i swear i typed out my comment before reading yours.. awesomeBonSeff
- Several states now have measures on the ballots for banning it. It IS banned in several already.aaux
- And george bush wouldn't even have been nominated by the current GOP. He's way too moderate.aaux
- BonSeff0
i love how the right wingers on talk radio are saying the polls are flawed and meaningless, but if the numbers were flipped, i doubt they would be skeptical of the lead, in fact they would be bragging with confidence about it. That story above about conceding the debates is awesome. Seriously one of the worst campaigns. Republicans, you are are fucking joke. "we need to get back to the constitution and take this country back" - that's all you got. no plan or vision. just want to harken back to the '50's. I hope you fuckers lose the house.
- 1850smonospaced
- I know. I like better presentation myself. thats why obama is cool he is like sleek apple laptop. Republicans are windows pc. even though undercover its same crap different book cover.yurimon
- even though its same crap different book cover. different packaging.yurimon
- Not even close to the same. Please stop saying that.aaux
- How would you like to eat your turd? with caramel coating or lemon twist? that how differentyurimon
- wont happen bonseff- sorry house is locked.whhipp
- BonSeff0
saying they are both the same is a lazy cop out. there are absolute fundamental differences.
- BonSeff0
Ok so, what is your so called "direction" you allude
- monospaced0
I still think it's wrong to have a religious bishop running for President.
- And even more weird that Republican Christians accept himmonospaced
- its so wrong. A person that strives to keep a moral compass in his life. Oh man so wrong.whhipp
- religious = moral compass? all those catholic pedophiles are what again?aaux
- if you think religion is the only path to a moral life then you are more stupid than i thoughtmonospaced
- and on top of that, it's un-American, what with all the separation of church and state stuff from the founding fathersmonospaced
- No didnt say that. But it shows an effort to be moral. And that is not so bad and wrong.whhipp
- being religious doesn't imply an effort to being moral. Unless your a hypocritical neo-con fundy, that is.aaux
- By your definition osama bin laden was a very moral person.aaux
- yurimon0
Direction is Expansive Federal Power, Centralized data processing and Surveillance (precrime as you will), Police State. So far there is a type of hybrid Capitalism. Expansive state capitalism and Corporate government partnerships.<- politically correct way of saying fascism. These 3 elements exist simultaneously at this time.
Corporate wealth will continue to feed corruption and change of our social system.
Thats not going to change unless there is organized people action regardless of who is in power.
- whhipp0
I still think its wrong to have a lawyer in the white house. Just as dumb as post above. Ha ridiculous claim mono. seriously!
- At least a lawyer believes in logic.monospaced
- and manipulating information to support his agenda. hmmm...whhipp
- Romney attended Harvard Law school. uh oh.bogue
- oh, like religion never manipulated anything for its agenda!monospaced
- so thats good, admission is the first step to recovery.whhipp
- I'm not admitting anything, dumbshit.monospaced
- nice,whhipp
- BonSeff0
GOP: Power to the people... what a joke. Their goal is nothing more than Plutocracy
- ********0
Well he's winning the "Thread thats stays on top of the list of the day" competition.
I'm sick at home and don't feel like doing nothing but make full QBN recap after my "almost with no internet" vacation, so I know...
- BrokenHD0
"Evolution has no credibility anyways and should be taught a such."
- whhippThis is who we've been arguing with? yeesh.
- show me the concrete proof of our origin coming from evolution. There is none.whhipp
- rocks... suddenly evolving to life. Cant find evidence of that happening can you?whhipp
- There is no proof of your god.severian
- so why cry to teach one or the other. why evolution then? im fine with teaching both or none.whhipp
- whhipp, the evidence is overwhelming and it's everywhere. Go look at something called "biology" for example. Fucking inbred.monospaced
- a good start. You sound like an inbred religious outback nutbag saying such naive thingsmonospaced
- So what's the creationist curriculum that should be taught? Lesson 1: God made everything. Class dismissed.aaux
- Evolution of species is fine we all evolve, but show me the proof that we were created from rocks. thats the argument.whhipp
- The evidence points to the amino acids and other compound that form DNA. Just do some research, ffs.monospaced
- Yeah... life.whhipp
- Explain to me or give me proof that there is concrete evidence that life was started by non-life. None exists.whhipp
- DNA created by chance takes as much faith as believing in a Creator.whhipp
- "DNA created by chance." You really need to get back to school, oh wait, that's what you're fighting against.aaux
- how then was DNA created?whhipp
- from nothing?whhipp
- Instead of asking, go do some research. Unfortunately, I can't do the same for creation. That's just myth.monospaced
- you dont know, I cant know, thats the point. THere is no answer.whhipp
- Science has heaps of evidence for a biological answer as opposed to religion's nothing.monospaced
- monospaced0
whhipp also thinks it's better to have a religious leader running the country than someone with an education in American law. I give up.
- Morgan Freeman would make a good president. Shame that he died.********
- he's not deadmonospaced
- wow so much for discrimination in the US. what a monkey you are mono.whhipp
- Fuckin A YEAH I discriminate against religious people running the country! Just like the founding fathers!monospaced
- And don't get me started on what Mormon's believe. They wrote the book on discrimination.monospaced
- And was that monkey statement racist?monospaced
- nope it was multilingual. Mono = Monkey, actually we can call you monkeyspace for now on.whhipp
- you're locomonospaced
- Morgan Freeman would make a good president. Shame that he died.
- yurimon0
I can say I am for the people all I want but fundamental action and direction in Gov is still the same. all these little Hegelian dialectic distractions keep you from noticing the similarity. Change is going on the same path... Look up hegelianism.
Current administration will keep on the path started of what we call bush policies and so will the next administration. Fundamental differences are the distraction. overall path is the same.
Like arguing what color you want your car.
- At least Double Face is only one person. These guys are faces of the same coin.********
- Three separate extremes which converge to create the purest form of experience?chossy
- Yes. We understand what Hegelianism is, you can stop trying to sound intellectual.mikotondria3
- At least Double Face is only one person. These guys are faces of the same coin.
- BonSeff0
in all fairness, law professors are pretty damn critical of obama
http://truth-out.org/opinion/ite…- Exactly. Bush and his patriot act and Obamas Executive Orders. whats the difference?yurimon
- oh, I dont know?
SOCIAL ISSUES?BonSeff - yes its the social issues... like The View, Golfing, Letterman, and hanging with JayZ.whhipp
- No, it's religious nutjobs trying to force their faith on the rest of us.aaux
- The Romney's are only on Jay Leno, because they are trying to appeal to the olds.DrBombay
- lolwhhipp
- BonSeff0
anyhoo, back to this jackass
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=JUy…...
