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- whhipp0
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- dibec0
ukit2 ... the Obama Regime has been playing the race card since day 1. Come on dude.
- ukit20
When I look at right wing sites I see they are hung up on racial issues...it is all about uncovering Obama's "secret racial past" and other weird obsessions.
People don't seem to understand that of course blacks and other minorities talk about race in a different way. A group of people who only 50 years ago were not considered equal in the eyes of the law.
- they know that superficial topics will sway votersmonospaced
- I have to say though, I think there is a limit to their influence. Look the numbers, Romney still losingukit2
- wait until they set up voting booths outside evangelical churches whilst mud-slingingmonospaced
- The quest for power brings out the absolute worst in people. We're seeing that with the repubs now.CygnusZero4
- Making up just blatant lies, digging for shit that has no relevancy at all.CygnusZero4
- whhipp0
Ya Monkeyspace... kinda superficial topics like this?
- dibec0
ukit2 ... the problem with the POTUS is that he has carefully created an enigma persona. 4 years ago the media sold us on this man that never truly existed.
- ukit20
Yea well there is always going to be some of that...it's politics after all.
But I don't see the hidden scary agenda that some do...ultimately Obama's policies are pretty much the same as Bill Clinton, well within the mainstream of the Democratic party.
- dibec0
Totally.
- whhipp0
Monkeyface, like this situation in 2008? Hmm...
- why are you addressing me, even?monospaced
- this isn't Obama being racist, dumbassmonospaced
- above. they know that superficial topics will sway voters
– monospaced1/3
I have to say though, I think there is a limit to their influence. Look the numbers, Romney still losing
– ukit22/3
wait until they set up voting booths outside evangelical churches whilst mud-slingingwhhipp - Right. That's not what's happening here, btw.monospaced
- Right, four clueless fucktards vs. a systemic billion dollar campaign to disenfranchise minority voters. got it.TheBlueOne
- Your false equivalence is showing.TheBlueOne
- false?whhipp
- Sup JazX v.10utopian
- whhipp0
and this...
- whhipp0
wait until they set up voting booths outside evangelical churches whilst mud-slinging
- monospace
- so, what's the superficial topic? education and health for families? pleasemonospaced
- The View as opposed to meeting on real world issues.whhipp
- now you answer to your ignorant statement seen to the left.whhipp
- that statement isn't ignorant, it's exactly what happened, dudemonospaced
- and your videos above aren't about Obama on the View, they're just people votingmonospaced
- yeah... the videos show how succinctly ignorant your little comment is.whhipp
- my comment isn't ignorant, it's a statement of fact, dudemonospaced
- ok, really? Your statement to the left is now a fact? Tell me how that is a fact, other than it is factually an ignorant statement.whhipp
- statement.whhipp
- When Bush was running for president, the Republicans did exactly this. That's itmonospaced
- yurimon0
I agree that racism falls onto moral issue with candidates with how they administer their roles in office. Also racism plays a broader negative role in this country. Its americas Achilles heal because it blinds the awareness of the common bond people have. Its divisive. It can be used to divide and conquer a nation and we all know divide and conquer is a war strategy. Its can be catalyst for change if you reverse the pendulum of power. Its pretty sad because peoples lack of awareness is used against themselves in the end. Especially one people realize they get vote people in who can give them stuff. Its like an environment of destruction is created from tope down and people just fall in like pawns on a chess board. Its just one part of an equation of subversion and negative change in this country.
- yep and barry is number one man in america putting fuel on the fire to divide.whhipp
- sorry some typos....yurimon
- birds of feather fuck togetherutopian
- HAHARamanisky2
- scruffics0
so these two idiots come to a brothel and tell the receptionist: "we have $10, what can we get for $10?". the receptionist turns around and goes "for $10 you can go suck each other off". the two guys look at one another, do that thing with their shoulders and leave. 20 minutes later they come back and ask the same receptionist "so... we sucked each other off, is this where we pay?"
i can't help but imagine those guys being yurimon and whhipp
- hellobotto0
http://www.qbn.com/topics/564613…
or maybe just start a grumpopatamus thread named, "Obama???," ...maybe?
- whhipp0
- about tolerance, yes.
We won't tolerate talk about being intolerant. Don't pretend you don't understand.mikotondria3
- about tolerance, yes.
- 74LEO0
my voting booth is in a Presbyterian church. So much for separation of church and state.
- So much for knowing that there is no such thing as "separation of church and state" in our Bill of Rights and Our Constitution.whhipp
- That's your honest response ? That's the most intelligent, informed argument you have about the subject ? Ayayay...mikotondria3
- whhipp... perhaps look up your 1st amendment. Try the 'establishment clause.'ETM
- Your following up reading is the 'Free Exercise Clause'.ETM
- Separation is the very basis of this country and of freedom. The second we have church and state together we're fuckedmonospaced
- no mention of separation of church and state. hmm i am still correct.whhipp
- You're willfully a massive snarky twat.mikotondria3
- thanks.whhipp
- It's not like they made you take communion or sit thru mass. If you don't believe, it's just a buildinglocustsloth
- goes to show we need mroe community centers where community based projects, laws, etc are discussed.teh
- TheBlueOne0
Racism in America has been from day one tied in with slavery, and wage slavery. African Americans were separated not only by the lever of racism, but also by their roles as slaves. And while the Civil War to some extent freed African Americans from the bondage of slavery - it did not remove from this country the spectre their racial identification as slaves carried nor, and equally important, did it destroy the cultural bedrock from which the idea of slave labor sprang form in the Confederacy.
This was a deep structural problem in the Constitution - giving the slave states - and by turn, their aristocratic/anti-democratic elites - weighted political advantage with more populace, and primarily Free states. Without giving these rich, racist elites this cherry the Union would not have happened. It was a problem from day one that festered until the Civil War eliminated the slavery, but left the structural forms in the US government to allow small elites to overpower democratic functions. This has only gotten more
They used to say what was good for General Motors is good for America. Now we read of the "death of the American Auto industry". Really? While Detroit may be a dying city, and teh Auto Unions a mere shadow of what they once were - the Ameican auto industry is thriving - in the former Confederacy - where the culture that once freely bought and sold humans no offers up to the automakers of the world a poor, increasingly worker rights denied ("right to work") States population. Republican's wave the USA flag - but then turn and sell American workers off to the highest, usually foreign, capital and industrial interests as the new cheap labor - the New Slavery. Where they devise laws to limit unions, wages, workers rights - in essence recreate the old Slave Class in function if not form.
Or take for example the "rah-rah America!" Repunlicans selling out one of the top American industustrial giants - Boeing - a company that won world wars, maintains out military and put us on the moon - to Airbus for a few dollars in their pockets and the promise of "cheap labor".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2…
While Boeing pays it's high skilled workers well, the Republicans offer a rival foreign firm tax breaks, promise workers who won't ask for the EXACT SAME RIGHTS that Airbus employees in Europe get.
Notice the growth of US manufacturing in the South - in "Right To Work" states -all former slave states - where once again the scions of the South sell out to the highest bidders to cheapen other human beings to line their pockets with dirty filthy lucre.The culture of the South along with the deep structural components of the original compromise to form the Union are still with us and will doom us until we wake up.
All this racist bullshit is also remnants of the facts that one time one group of small, greedy fucks sold other human beings. And they're still doing it - cheapening their fellow citizens and selling them off to the highest bidder, and stashing the money in the Caymans.
- mg330
74LEO - I've had the same objections before when I voted in a church. I fail to see how it's even legal. There was nothing going on in terms of coercion or suggestions on how to vote, but I just found the whole thing very bothersome.
- Oh my how do you go on with your life? God forbid if the churches open their doors as polling places to their communities. In God We Trust.whhipp
- communities. One Nation Under God. In God We Trust. Holding hand to Bible to tell the truth. All have American Values and Culture. Sorry if you dont like it, but it is a part of our country.whhipp
- Culture. Sorry if you dont like it, but it is a part of our country.whhipp
- Twat.mikotondria3
- Dumbass. "Under God" was removed 50 years ago. That "pledge" isn't part of our founding values, idiot.monospaced
- It's considered unconstitutional.monospaced
- whhipp is on a role of ignorance...ETM
- where? show me in the constitution.whhipp
- I did, right below. Look down, like 2 inches. There you go.
* pats on the head.ETM - vETM
- i LOL'dRamanisky2
- ETM0
Even though I am not even American, I gotta address whhipp's side comment above:
He said: "So much for knowing that there is no such thing as "separation of church and state" in our Bill of Rights and Our Constitution."
Which is only correct in that specific wording was written in a letter, but the spirit is absolutely in the constitution... first amendment even:
The Establishment Clause is the first of several pronouncements in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, stating,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religionFurther more:
The Free Exercise Clause is the accompanying clause with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause together read:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof... "- <ETM
- whhipp?ETM
- right. and how does this present an issue with what mg33 complains about? nothing.whhipp
- government is not sponsoring a religion when a church is acting as a poling place.whhipp
- its still not in the bill of rights this way. was interpreted, and i think has been interpreted a lot further left than what is intended. just my take.whhipp
- intended. but that s my take.whhipp
- This post is about your 'church and state' comment. You're not even answering the right question.ETM
- You said the there's nothing about it in the constitution. I showed you where.ETM
- its still not stated in those exact words. it was written in a letter by Thomas Jefferson.whhipp
- it's in the constitution regardless assholemonospaced
- whhipp0
ETM I understand how it is interpreted "Separation of church and state" and how it is incorporated, however I feel this interpretation is wrongly used in everyday thinking. People have heard it over and over they seem to think it is written in the Bill of Rights that way. No it hasn't and still isn't. The courts have observed Thomas Jeffersons words in a letter he wrote to further distinguish the First Amendment.
That being said, I feel mg33, to whom I was commenting to, doesn't understand what it means when he was quoting the famous words "separation of church and state" with a polling center being in a church as unconstitutional.
I feel this interpretation of "separation of church and state" has become perverse, it does not mean the removal of all Christian theism in our public domain. Which, unfortunately to some, is our heritage. It is the interpretation that is the problem. It was meant to keep government out of the church's business, not the removal of church in government's business.
- You have literally no idea about how the separation has ever been ruled on, by Supreme Courts, etc, have you ?mikotondria3
- I do, but its wrongly interpreted.whhipp
- IMO.whhipp
- Well you're stuck with what everyone else thinks it means and how they rule, so suck it up and start your own country.mikotondria3
- "Welcome to Whippland."mg33
- Whhippland, that has a nice ring to it!whhipp
- You LITERALLY have it backward whhipp. It's to keep religion out of government completely.monospaced