Sagmeister Walsh
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- i_monk0
I regret posting the update, though it would have popped up here soon enough.
- ben_4
Personally I'm glad you did, i_monk.
It's funny, there's this real sense that some of you feel like she's undeserving of where she is today, as if she stole something from Stefan.
Your only rationale is that she's a woman and uses her image to get where she is. There's been literally zero consideration for her success outside of that lane and that any legitimate success is due solely to Sagmeister's legacy, some of you even going so far as to act like you have some insider knowledge into the situation.
It's kinda sad to see it, though it makes sense who the bs is coming from. Fuck it, I miss newstoday.
- I wish her all the success possible. The whole discussion was based on her self-absorbed, narcissistic endless self-promi antics.NBQ00
- I must confess, I'm somewhat of a slut. I'm approaching having sex with the 100th woman in my life so far. Luckily no STD's, I was mostly careful.Fax_Benson
- NBQ, yeah it's clear that's what you made it about, but the conversation wasn't started that way.ben_
- imbecile5
For decades we've roasted, flamed, harassed, and ridiculed male designers and maybe a few female designers alike, but mostly male.
The crowd here has always appreciated its own hive mind aesthetic. (Which I have personally enjoyed.) Clean, unintrusive, and polished.
We were not nice to Sagmeister & Walsh simply because. Most of it sucked, some of it not. Work worth appreciating was appreciated.
Now for some reason we can't act like ourselves because a woman has branched off in 2019? QBN will fall prey to political correctness? Fuck that. The work and presentation is trash.
We can shit on male designers for years for a myriad of reasons, but we can't shit on a woman whose work is not good because equality? That's some new world order equality.
Some individuals have roasted the community because of one or two member's opinions. Get over yourselves, both sides.
The shit looks trash, the presentation is trash. It's all rushed with no purpose. I'd say that if a guy made it too.
And yes, messiah complex is real with a few of you.
- Amen, brother.NBQ00
- That said, I wouldn't say the work is "trash". Some of it is really good but much of the stuff is average and the over the top self-promo makes it worse.NBQ00
- lol @ part of our tradition being harassing people.youngdesigner
- +BusterBoy
- it staysimbecile
- +MrAbominable
- _niko4
this is great, we haven't had a good Brett Bashing in a while!
- noneck1
Thank you, Fate. You summed up the bullshit brilliantly.
Want to criticize Walsh's work? Go nuts. Being upset that she took over the agency, or that she only got it because she slept with Sagmeister is out of line, and should be called out.
Roast Walsh all you want (I don't care for much of their work), as imbecile said, QBN has ridiculed male designers for a long time. But male designers weren't ridiculed for being male, unlike Walsh. That's some red pill, incel-like fuckery.
Some of you are trying too hard to be edgy. Fuck off with that shit.
- Only idiots would see our criticism as women-hating incel BS. It's easy to drift into identity politics when you disagree with somebody.NBQ00
- Not directed solely at you NBQ00, but I guess I misinterpreted this https://www.qbn.com/… bullshit.noneck
- Forgive me, I'm an idiot after all.noneck
- Yeah I wrote "It's a joke guys" making fun of the situation.NBQ00
- After you got called out on it.noneck
- QBN is becoming outright toxic. Something needs to change before this place turns into 4chan.noneck
- Uhm, how? Don't you see my note on very top. I immediately wrote it when I posted the pic. geez.NBQ00
- yeah now "it's a joke", 4 days ago you were insisting that she's just an untalented chick that got nakedernexbcn
- Holy shit, I even wrote "It's a joke" in the notes there. Are you guys dumb?NBQ00
- I'm talking about your other notes on other posts on this very same thread days ago, but whatever manernexbcn
- "But male designers weren't ridiculed for being male, unlike Walsh." Exactamundo.Nairn
- you say it's a joke, but everything you do says otherwise.ben_
- So when you attack people by calling them incels, aren't you just doing exactly what you said they shouldn't do?zarkonite
- Incel is a male-only insult isn't it? I think the name-calling from both sides is really pointless and doesn't help foster conversation.zarkonite
- Incel isn't male-only, but it's generally male. I used it as an inaccurate short-hand for the kind of bitter, sexist attitudes I see here.noneck
- I'm just saying de-escalating sounds like a better strategy to me, calling people incels and stomping on them isn't likely to get you anything but more insults.zarkonite
- This is absolute rubbish. I was equally scathing of Sagmeister when he paraded his cock all over the place to gain notoriety.BusterBoy
- Bennn21
- LOL. This wins.NBQ00
- LOLrenderedred
- bennnn!!!!! brilliant!_niko
- < THIS is why we QBN.mg33
- Ha! mintmaquito
- lol, glad you likeBennn
- LOL! @Bennn FTW! Bravo!Krassy
- @mg33 +1Krassy
- lolol.ben_
- Heherobotron3k
- Now we're QBNing properly.zarkonite
- haha nice :Dsted
- We need more of these, lolMaaku
- ^maybe a new psb?renderedred
- lolSimonFFM
- That's so fucking brilliant. Chapeau!sandpipe
- omahadesigns1
This modern influencer / Instagram world is so weird.
Remember when only losers went in chat rooms and went on online dating sites?
Now it’s business for everyone to take photos of themselves and use hashtags so strangers find your photos and “like” them and become fans.
- fate-1
Hey Bennn and Krassy, we get it, you don't know how to be a part of this conversation.
Some of you need to grow a spine and start standing up for what's right.
Quick example — Sted posted over 1,000 words in the "blog" thread about having to fire 3 employees for sexual harassment. Sted even said he heard the "really unpleasant" comments detailing "asses slapped/fucked, tits size/banged, blowjobs" which he found unacceptable at the time.
But Sted didn't do anything about it because he thought "that it's better to shut the fuck up, listen, and keep my opinion for myself. Otherwise if I don't, I will find myself to be truly an outsider and lose touch with my male colleagues. My business partner comes from a different corporate culture where people are accepting or turning a blind eye above these things"
Now he's dealing with lawsuits, investor blowback, potentially monitoring all his employees and keeping video records of everyone's activities.
You really still fail to see how your behavior is a problem?
And the SAME PEOPLE that are acting like horny, bitter little boys in this thread are the same ones that could clearly see SOMEONE ELSE'S behavior and had no issue calling it unacceptable.
Why not apply these same principles to yourselves?
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"Good move firing them. Unacceptable behaviour."
NBQ00--
"What began it is people who did not speak up because they felt powerless. Honestly the HR Dept needs to be looked at and all initiatives come from there."
robotron3k--
"Yes I'm sure you feel responsible but there needs to be a culture shift. Cameras are not cops, each person needs to feel part of the whole. Gluck"
robotron3k- +1noneck
- I shouldn't call this behaviour "incel" because that's not accurate. But I've become increasingly offended by the attitudes I've seen here.noneck
- You can't be serious dude. SMHNBQ00
- There's too much really sexist, edgelord shit in here, and I'm not comfortable staying quiet about it anymore. Silence = acceptance.noneck
- Comparing real sexual harassment and sexism to us talking about a designer and criticising her. Once again read imbecile's post.NBQ00
- The problematic stuff isn't criticism about her WORK, it's about her GENDER. I agree that the work is a bit shit. Not my cuppa.noneck
- fate and notype, you angry guys are represent all that is wrong in the work, social justice warriors who are afraid of language.robotron3k
- fate, i was just trying to put some smiles in here. I totally agree with what you're saying, I even regret some comments I've made ealier in this thread.Bennn
- fate & notype are Doomers... https://youtu.be/Aaz…robotron3k
- @fate why are you dragging me into this? lolKrassy
- @fate I do know how to be part of a conversation and do have my own opinions, but maybe perhaps maybe I was too busy or not interested. Chill, bro!Krassy
- fate2
"Comparing real sexual harassment and sexism to us talking about a designer and criticising her. Once again read imbecile's post."
-NBQ00
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"I hope [she'll be back next year same time to self promote more nude shots with] a full on porn coffee table book with all the girls there."
-Also NBQ00
- Sigh, dude. Irony, sarcasm and snarky comments ain't your forte, huh? Immediately ringing the SJW-Sexism-Women-Hat...NBQ00
- That second quote doesn't read like irony or sarcasm.noneck
- You really coming back with the "it's just a joke!!" shit?fate
- WTF! I can make edgy comments on a site, doesn't make me a fucking sexist in real life you idiot.NBQ00
- Snark, maybe. But it's shitty criticism that isn't really about the work.noneck
- whoa people, are we turning this into a social justice issue? on an internet forum no less?renderedred
- Social Justice Issue? It's called basic respect. And you wonder why there are so few female designers on QBN...fate
- Because you're turning into identity politics. Nobody here was bashing her because she's female. We never harassed shellie or seasea either on here.NBQ00
- You're the one accusing us of being sexist and comparing real life violent sexual harassers with comments on a forum, WTF.NBQ00
- Consider the possibility that you're being a creep, NBQ00. Use your creative powers and use some mental flexibility to see things from other's perspective.fate
- You're the same person that said "Good move firing them. Unacceptable behaviour."fate
- fate0
"What began it is people who did not speak up because they felt powerless. Honestly the HR Dept needs to be looked at and all initiatives come from there."
-robotron3k
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"you angry guys are represent all that is wrong in the work, social justice warriors who are afraid of language."
-Also robotron3k
- Fate, I know you're thinking about me, I'm getting that butterfly feeling again in my nether regions...robotron3k
- He is a confusing fellow.pango
- fate2
Creative Review, a respected trade pub, calls out comments on this site as misogynistic.
This happened 7 years ago.
And somehow, in these intervening years...in light of the #metoo movement, Trump, Weinstein, Epstein, Louis C.K., on and on...
...you've managed to get worse?
- Wow dude I have no words for you. Comparing real sexism & sexual harassment & violence with bashing some designer and calling her narcissistic.NBQ00
- Creative Review, lol, fate print magazines died.robotron3k
- Well fuck off then.BusterBoy
- Bennn2
Ok guys. I think we all get the point. Can we slow down a bit ? Its getting a little bit too much right now.
- scnd thatrenderedred
- my comics pictures below was intented to slow down the pace and close the case, seems like I failed.Bennn
- Unfortunately Bennn, I was hoping your fun post would close this thread for a while but 2 ultra-SJW's had to continue with dumb posts.NBQ00
- yah, it escalated quicklyrenderedred
- capn_ron2
I'm starting to like Jessica Walsh a lot more and you all a lot less!
- That's objectification capn, cut it out or I'll call our SJW police in you. fate, notype get ready to dox!!!robotron3k
- i'll dox for you. my name is Boobs McGee. Most people call me Boobs. But you can call me Boobs McGee.capn_ron
- robotron3k, no one's going to dox you. And you're sounding like a Trump supporter with the SJW shit.fate
- fate you haven't called me a brown Nazi, racist, mysogynist yet, you feeling ok??robotron3k
- I haven't been on QBN for years, catch me up. Is this your schtick now? This is how they let you act?fate
- You need a few more of the old gods to break your balls and call you out?fate
- @fate. He IS a trump supporter lolpango
- Bennn2
Jessica liked one of my Instagram post once, I wasn't even following her. It was a pic of an art project and I guess she saw the hashtag, I got like 4 or 5 Likes on that post and one was from her :)
- Bennn, you should email her and show her this thread. I'm sure she'll have a lot of fun.NBQ00
- pretty sure she will hear about it or find it in Google... She's laugh big timeBennn
- you touched the grail my manrenderedred
- Weird flex bennrobotron3k
- weird flex? I dont understand this englishBennn
- Flex = se vanterzarkonite
- oh i see! I wasnt flexing, just an anecdote!Bennn
- noneck4
I think fate and I are trying to point out how shitty and embarrassing the criticism in this thread is. After 17 years on here, I'm at the point where I either need to call out this shit when I see it, or not be a part of the community any longer.
I'm disappointed that there are calls to chill out and "not turn this into a SJW issue." I can't be quiet about this behaviour anymore.
- Bet you 100 Million, if Jessica was a guy this identity politics BS from you and fate wouldn't have arisen! Just because she's female you accuse us being sexistNBQ00
- agree but we're spinning in circle right now, the point has been made I think. We can continue for a week more, we will still be at the same place.Bennn
- I still think coming to the aid of a female shows how little you two think of Jessica. When you post a naked pic of yourself for business, it can be criticized.robotron3k
- I wasn't defending her. I was pointing out that critiques like "She only got the agency because tits" shouldn't have a place here.noneck
- I also pointed out that's impossible. She has no tits!pango
- Go ahead and point it out, that's your prerogative. But can you also lead by example and contribute with actual design talk?zarkonite
- However I'm with fate & noneck on this one. Even though the sexism is only on Schrodinger box LVL you can really blame other people for seein it as women hatingpango
- *cantpango
- It's a sad day when we can't discuss things openly. The dark cloud of cultural Marxism seems to be descended on QBN.youngdesigner
- The truth is that Jessica Walsh started all of this with her provocative images. She was basically inviting or asking for this kind of response.youngdesigner
- yes discuss things like how she got the position with her tits. which i can't mention enough, it's impossible.pango
- "cultural marxism" - lol, get over yourself, this is a discussion. no one's stopping you from voicing your opinion.ben_
- NBQ00-3
Let's talk about Jessica Walsh
I'm Jessica and I'm an Irish graphic designer. I aim to help brands and businesses to communicate in innovative, uncomplicated ways. Experienced in branding & identity, UI/UX design and design for both print and digital.
- why would you do that?Fax_Benson
- Her work is solidrobotron3k
- I like it better than &walsh. lol.noneck
- Ya better then &w.
Keep it up nbq.pango - nice workpedromendez
- fate2
"Bet you 100 Million, if Jessica was a guy this identity politics BS from you and fate wouldn't have arisen! Just because she's female you accuse us being sexist"
-NBQ00
Let's be clear: You posting your fantasies about a porno coffee table book featuring a leading male designer and his male co-workers would be just as weird and uncomfortable.
- I wonder how low your IQ is, really. The fact that you don't get sarcasm and snarky comments on QBN. Sigh.NBQ00
- Can you please just stop now? It doesn't get us anywhere.NBQ00
- Ohhhhh we've moved on to personal attacks now. Fight fight fight!pango
- I bet you 100 millions I'd still be annoyed by the none stop criticism after the point is made.pango
