Logo design for another studio's client
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- Guss
A while back I did a logo exploration for a small studio for one of their clients.
This is what I proposed. I got paid for my time and everything was fine.
http://designsurvivalist.com/#22…
A few years goes by and I randomly discover this on another studio site:
http://parts-and-labor.com/caffe…
What happened? I guess they didn't like my design proposal, so someone tweaked the shit out of my designs.
Awesome.
- monospaced0
Your shit got RIPPED yo! But, since they did "buy" your art the first round, it's a grey area between "updating" it and just straight up stealing it. This would drive me insane, btw.
- I wrote them a nice little inquiry as to why their work so closely mimics yours.monospaced
- why would you email them??inteliboy
- Not email. Just inquiry through their sitemonospaced
- dbloc0
honestly, they can do whatever they want with it.
- I'm sure it was the client that directed the changes.dbloc
- true, but it still stinksmonospaced
- yeah it does. It always sucks when someone messes with your designs.dbloc
- I hope both the client and the other firm feel a bit ashamed for this for some reasonmonospaced
- Amicus0
You may have some legal rights to uphold if you want to go in that direction. It all depends on the the contracts between you and the agency, and between the client and the agency.
If it's a work for hire situation, then you are out of luck, but if the work was not used initially either you or the agency you worked for will still own the copyright to that work.
BTW... your work looks so much nicer than the shite that Parts and Labour came up with.
- monospaced0
Hey Guss, are you sure you aren't telling the whole truth here? Please enlighten us as to how you got that client in the first place and who you happened to be working with at the time on that identity project.
- utopian0
Quitely exists thread...
- Fax_Benson0
So, is this the story: Guss did some work for a client - got paid. Client later decided to 'update' the logo with a different designer - bit of a shame for Guss but not the end of the world?
- OSFA0
this might turn into an epic thread....
- SteveZissou0
The "updated" versions look weak in comparison...you WIN!
- jon_d0
i like your big green type logo the best
- Guss0
Thanks for having my back. But I think I wasn't clear and my bad for not explaining enough. Yeah, it sucked that my designs got tweaked, but I was more posing the question because I had no idea that the client wasn't happy with it, and wondered if anyone else had had a similar experience (being left totally in the dark as to the outcome).
The guy I worked with in the original studio changed to a different studio, so they didn't "steal" anything. The client did have the full rights to the artwork...my question should have been, "what happened, why did they decide to go this route?"
- they have no taste and hired a designer that isn't as good as you... end of storyAmicus
- scruffics0
well... that was more boring than awesome
- Continuity0
I'll be honest, I'm having a bit of a tough time figuring out why this thread exists.
For one thing, how much time passed between when you handed off your artwork, and this shop did its tweaks?
I really does sound to me like the stuff you did made people happy, but time passed, and the client asked a new shop to update your stuff.
And you said yourself that the colleague with whom you worked in the original studio moved on, and that might be a reason the client decided to go with the other shop.
I'm not un-sympathetic, but this sort of stuff happens all the time, and it's usually client-directed.
You got paid, you can proudly use the work in your folio and life goes on.
I'm not trying to be a cock; I just don't see what's unusual about any of this.
- the "colleague" art directed him and now works at the new firm in question, that's whatmonospaced
- I was also thinking it might be the case, but it still isn't that big a deal, from where I sit.Continuity
- exactly, the other guy came up with the idea, Guss was only one of the designersmonospaced
- fadein110
another 2 minutes of my life wasted
- toodee0
They were probably pissed off that you missed the f from caffe.
- clearThoughts0
Did you get paid for your work?
If yes, that's the way it is.
I was looking on Fabien Baron's website... Baron Baron the other day, and it's full of logos they merely just tweaked.
Like Dunhill for example.
I think I have seen the Dunhill logo in 10 agency's websites already. The person that probably designed it is dead already.So that's the story morning glory.
- Also, I'm pretty sure we've all tweaked someone else's work over the course of our careers.Continuity
- doesnotexist0
unless there was something in the original contract stating they couldn't alter your work and if they wanted to they'd have to hire you, yeah they paid for it and have the right to do with it whatever they want.
imo it's not worth the time to even figure it out, unless it's a huge client and this IS in your contract, in which case your contract would stipulate consequences of such contract breaches.
:D
- i_monk0
Some ADs/CDs will claim anything they even looked at as their own creation.
At least you got paid, you can show it in your book, and anyone who goes looking/encounters it in the real world will just think there were other variants. No biggie.
- doesnotexist0
yours is better.
- toodee0
I wouldn't worry about it, client/agencies seem to make bad decisions like this all the time.
Your site's full of really cool stuff. Nice one.
- Guss0
Thanks