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- 74LEO0
Im sure now all efforts will goto Mumia. Now with a Republican governor in Pennsylvania don't be surprised if we hear more about this. Although statistically speaking PA doesn't execute but they could transfer him to another state like...
- BusterBoy0
If there is enough doubt for calls that a man not be extcuted, surely there's enough doubt to have the sentence quashed completely?
- fooler0
- Glasses, bald head.mikotondria3
- http://www.qbn.com/t…TresLeches
- sorry for the timeline.
http://articles.cnn.…fooler - I know one has a goatee?74LEO
- Ramanisky20
here's an interesting thing I heard last night
At the exact same time as Mr. Davis is to be sent to his death tonight, Governor Rick Perry is scheduled to add to his record tally of state-sponsored death. One of the men who lynched James Byrd, Jr. is also scheduled to die by lethal injection in Texas. Lawrence Brewer's guilt is not in question, and his crime was beyond description. But the death penalty is not a fence-sitting issue.
For his part, Mr. Byrd's son doesn't think this is justice:
you can't fight murder with murder," Ross Byrd, 32, told Reuters late Tuesday, the night before Wednesday's scheduled execution of Lawrence Russell Brewer for one of the most notorious hate crimes in modern times."Life in prison would have been fine. I know he can't hurt my daddy anymore. I wish the state would take in mind that this isn't what we want."
- funny how knuckleheads like cygnus cry for less controlling govt but are willing to cede the ultimate power.Fax_Benson
- Its people like that Ross Byrd who make me think there is yet hope for humanity amongst all this shit. RIP James Byrd, Jrisakosmo
- 5timuli0
There's too much white in the Stars and Stripes.
- NONEIS0
Capitol Punishments in Texas since 1976:
475Capitol Punishments in Texas during Rick Perry's Tenure:
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- jon_d0
internet. f yeah.
- lowimpakt0
CygnusZero4. give it a rest. you're starting to sound unhinged.
i personally don't care how ignorant you are or how anachronistic and fundamentalist your views are.
I also personally don't care about your homophobic insults. It says a lot about you as a person.
what I do care about is you being a dick to everyone else in this thread.
In the future, if you have an issue refer it to me directly.
- ukit0
Well in some Muslim countries if you steal they cut off your hand.
I'm assuming even the strongest advocates of the death penalty here would never suggest doing that.
But ultimately isn't execution more barbaric? Personally I'd rather be missing a hand than be dead. I guess death is cleaner and easier to forget about.
- actually, I'm closer to be in favor of that. I hate a fuckin' thief.johnny_wobble
- Uhmmm I totally agree with that. You don't see a lot of stealing now do you? It's a deterrent and it works.popfodders
- johnny_wobble0
do you only shout "an eye for an eye!" in a murder case?
or if they rape somebody, you want them assraped and call it square?
they steal something, somebody comes and steals their shit?
you tag a wall, somebody comes to tag yours?
you assault somebody, you get your ass kicked?honest question, I don't get it. Where else does an eye for an eye apply?
- nothing? just murder?johnny_wobble
- I could deal with rape for rape or hanging for rape. yeah, it's one thing Iran has rightpopfodders
- rape for rape?! really? nice. fuckin' retard. i'd rather them loose their freedom than take an ass pounding.johnny_wobble
- CygnusZero40
I'm a free man and I have to buy my own meals and pay taxes. My tax dollars are being used to provide convicted criminals with free meals, entertainment and a bunch of other nice shit while in prison.
Well I have to live with that, but what really sucks is providing all of that to people who took another persons life from them. Yeah that fucking sucks, so when I hear about an execution thats just fine with me. People dont usually get fucking executed in the US for no reason just so you know. There's usually like a good reason behind it, 'n stuff.
- and a large percent of those people shouldn't even be in jail. people busted with weed for example. incarceration is a business.johnny_wobble
- businessjohnny_wobble
- fucking hell. How old are you? I'm guessing either 13 or 200.Fax_Benson
- you're not asking me are ya, fax? if so, 35.johnny_wobble
- CygnusZero40
Its usually those fucking eurofags that seems to make all these stupid remarks about the death penalty. Any asshole that things you should be allowed to sit in a nice modern prison after taking an innocent life is really just on a level of idiot I cant even fathom.
Have you watches those prison reality shows. It's really not that bad of a life. Well aside from not having women around, you have your own room with a TV, bathroom, they actually have jobs and make money (WTF???), library, outdoor gym, public movie night, counselors, church and a bunch of other nice shit available to them.
So a dude that kills a cop is allowed to have all of this stuff for the rest of his life? Uh yeah I dont think so. Lay down and take this needle in your arm and shut up.
- you just show so much ignorance. i really pity you.isakosmo
- please work on your spelling and grammar (coming from a eurofag)pressplay
- Exactly Cypopfodders
- GeorgesII0
where's drgss!!
- randommail0
How's this idea Popfodders?
The very next day after sentencing. Head on a block. A masked man with large axe. No appeals. No pardons.
Eye for an eye. Cheap. Easy. Done.- Na you're going too far with it. Appeals are done for a reason. This guy had appeals. They didnt work, and he died, as he should have.CygnusZero4
- ... should have.CygnusZero4
- ukit0
- EYE for fukin EYE BITCHEs!Dodecahedron
- wow, you guys don't get it do you? you really don't.popfodders
- just the same snide remarks each time from the peanut gallerypopfodders
- ukit0
In 2009, the average murder rate for states with a death penalty was 4.9 per 100,000 people, while the average murder rate for states without a death penalty was only 2.8.
Furthermore, in 2009, of the 25 states with the highest murder rates, 23 of them have death penalties. According to information from the Census department, in 2006, of the 25 states with the most violent crimes, 21 of them had death penalties. States that use the death penalty do not see lower murder rates.
And yet, the death penalty imposes an enormous financial burden on our country. In nearly all states with a death penalty, it costs more annually to carry out carry out an execution than sentence someone to lifetime incarceration. Based on a 2008 report from the Commission on the Fair Administration of Justice, the annual cost of the death penalty system in California is conservatively estimated to be $137 million, when the additional appeals and investigations are included. The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration in place of the death penalty would be $11.5 million.
- http://tech.mit.edu/…ukit
- larger than keeping the guy alive for 75 years? I doubt it.popfodders
- ukit, there's far too many variables in that equation. how much of that $137M is based upon appeals, etc.?popfodders
- So no appeals? Even better!ukit
- and your article has very few if any at all professional references. College staff columnist? Dig harderpopfodders
- No. I didn't say that, but that's part of that cost, I bet. Yes, it's expensive. I don't trust that source though.popfodders
- Here's an idea, if in fact that amount is valid, cut costs in the death penalty execution process.popfodders
- oooh, check pop out - questioning the validity of the source material. Wasn't so hard, was it?Fax_Benson
- and?popfodders
- drgs0
we are ... we are walmart
- is that supposed to be some sad attempt at making an entire political party or region seem that way?popfodders
- it truly dumbfounds me that you don't practice what you all preach. Now, how does that work?popfodders
- holy shit. poor bastards having that guy as a boss.johnny_wobble
- oh supreme overseer please do with this as you wish...please!74LEO
- stomp!jon_d
- popfodders0
You can’t eat your cake and have it too. That BS about cops threatening witness is a bunch of, after the fact, crap. Seriously, it is absolutely a bunch of people crying about it. Use your fucking head, not your heart. As far as that guy above, Samuel Crowe, goes he deserves the same thing, there needn't be a hypocrisy behind the rule. Maybe killing a cop looks a lot worse, but it's still the same concept. Eye for an eye.
Plus, the state of Georgia would never spend the money on retrying the guy. Talk about a waste of money. Evidence is evidence. There, call me what you will.
- Supreme Court took a look at it, realized the guy was guilty and said "No Fucking Way!"popfodders
- CygnusZero40
This whole thing doesnt seem to have a lot to do with whether he really did it or not. It just comes down to whether the death pentalty is right or wrong, thats all it is. Witnesses said he did it, I dont give it a shit if they feel like changing their minds later, trial is over assholes. You already sentenced him to death. Case closed. The guy was a known criminal, and had already fucking shot someone before this! He wasnt some upstanding citizen, he was already a scumbag before this happened.
If a bunch of people put him at the scene, I have no problems with putting him to death. All this bullshit about them being forced to say they saw this guy there, uh, what the fuck would force them to say that if they really didn't? Common sense here. These were innocent civilians that came forward as witnesses in the first fucking place. What were the cops going to buttrape them if they didnt say they saw this guy? Come on now.
It just comes down to a bunch of whining bitches crying about the death penalty yet again. You want to go kill a cop, well you dont get to sit in prison with your TV, magazines, library, gym and other fine activities, sorry. Big fan of the death penalty.
- that's just, like, your opinion, man. And it's a fucking horrible one. Still, popfodders agrees with you..Fax_Benson
- WWJD?duck3
- I agree with him, because he's fucking right, use your fucking brain, not your heart.popfodders