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- nb0
- ukit0
If you think this is bad...just wait.
- popfodders0
50M pennies!
- fugged0
I got like 7 of those notices from Comcast regarding downloading copyrighted material. Unfortunately my Comcast notices were going to an old email account i never check, so I didn't see them until they had piled up.
So far nothing has ever come of it, and of course I have stopped downloading shit; it's not worth the risk. What's stupid is, it was stuff that was available from Netflix, I just was too impatient to wait for the disks to arrive. Lesson learned.
Back in May, a district court Judge ruled that an IP address is not a person, and denied a company access to subpoena ISPs for personal information.
- ok_not_ok0
You'll get a yellow letter first from your ISP telling you that they received a complaint from some Movie or Music company and that you're IP address was tracked down. Your ISP will just warn you and will advise you to stop doing torrents and delete all illegal movies you have and if they catch you again they will give your info to the Movie/Music company.
- Finger point gun click. Happened to 3 of my friends using COX.DRIFTMONKEY
- and do you know what is the penalty?loool
- nb0
I have a roommate. He is not listed on our ISP account. Is there a law that says I'm responsible if he downloads stuff?
Obviously, the company would go after me. If they did, could I not say, 'Oh, must've been my roommate.' It seems he could even admit to it, as long as he's not named in the suit.
This seems like a childish way to deal with these things, but really... I live in Canada. Foreign distribution companies pressuring my govt and judges to rule in their favour? Lame, dudes.
- Dodecahedron0
How do the music/movie companies find out to begin with? How can they tell what you are specifically downloading and how can they prove it?
- They put out Fake current movies or music that will sniff your IP address.ok_not_ok
- In cahoots with ISP?DRIFTMONKEY
- Yeah but but most of the time the ISP's ignore the complaints specially for first timersok_not_ok
- loool0
and my main question is what is then happening? does anyone know how much they fine you...money, jail, guillotine???
- I have personally never seen anything go beyond a warning letter.DRIFTMONKEY
- Yep...Usually the first letter will scare the shit out of you that it'll make you stop using torrents.ok_not_ok
- I think they are playing the fear factor big time. A few stories circulate of fines or being sued etc. and the warnings scare people.Dodecahedron
- some friends of mine have been fined. never heard of jail time.doesnotexist
- kalkal0
- Do you use this? Can you endorse its legitimacy?DRIFTMONKEY
- It works for known IPs. Obviously not all IPs will be known but I use it and I've never had a letter from my ISPkalkal
- Continuity0
I was always under the impression that these media companies were more interested in catching the big fish, the ones who are the source suppliers of all sorts of things like software, movies, music, etc ... you know, the major crackerz/ripperz, not necessarily the sole individual downloading a Metallica album.
Apparently not.
That said, I suppose the media companies would pursue the maximum penalty allowable by law wherever it is they're pressing charges. Whether it's a summary or indictable (fine or imprisonment, respectively) offence is up to whatever jurisdiction in which you live.
- pr20
How is that even legal? Isn't the information obtained illegal (here violating privacy laws) not admitable in the courts?
- If I recall, the RIAA and MPAA won the right to request this information from ISPs a few years back in the US.Continuity
- Continuity0
Actually – and someone in the US can correct me if I'm wrong – but didn't the Patriot Act have very wide-ranging provisions for obtaining personal details of users from ISPs? Or am I thinking of something separate that the RIAA and MPAA managed to score?
- Hombre_Lobo0
Jesus, no such thing as online anonymity anymore.
- Strictly speaking, there never really was.Continuity
- so i discovered!mydo
- aldebaran0
Don't download public torrents.... Get an invite to a private torrent site.
- I can haz Demonoid invite? :DContinuity
- i might have one. :)johnny_wobble
- but something seems to be wrong with demonoid right now.johnny_wobble
- Yea its down for some reason...
Ironmonkey
- JSK0
- loool0
demonoid works again!!!
- wagshaft0
I got hit for $2500. Hurt Locker sharing.
- They sent you a bill?ukit
- that said, pretty good price to download all the free shit you've ever wanted up to this point!mcmillions
- jon_d0
So you basically buy a computer and internet access to entrap yourself into paying fines.