http://99designs.com/
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- rbroady0
A friend used 99design's for his business two years ago. He called to ask if I wanted to help out, but I had to go through the site.
Knocked out a logo real quick, made some edit's, laughed at everyone else's submission's and took home my whopping $300...ehh, beer money.
It seemed like such a great concept(the site), at the time, when I just started my career. Now, after a year and a half at an agency, even though im full-time, I see how you freelancers must shun this sort of thing.
p.s - He is apart of a start-up with a few of his Brown classmates, they were just out of school (as I was) and poor at the time.
- When I was a still in school I made plenty of cash making shitty logos on those sites. Easy money!monospaced
- some friend...freedom
- 404NotFound0
I'd ask the hard question of why they don't want to use you.
- I thought they were totally sold on one I made for them. Everyone seemed on board. Then this came up. Fuck.boobs
- hope you at least got paid for what you did developmonospaced
- dbloc0
If you don't care enough about how your business looks, you don't care enough about your business.
-me
- Boz0
lol.. ironically the client doesn't know what they like.. that's the whole problem with crowdsourcing.. instead of client hiring a design to solve their business problem in a creative way by providing them with solution they don't have an answer for, crowdsourcing is giving them noise to pick from with very little understanding of their needs.
So the client goes and picks what they think looks great to them, which in most cases isn't the appropriate solution because the client is very very subjective and having them decide what is good design will most likely end up in a complete creative failure.
Paul Rand for example says, and rightfully so, that when a company/business hires him to design a logo/identity for them, they hire him to solve the problem. They hire his expertise and they will get only 1 logo as a design from them. Not 15 variations where the client picks what they like because his wife or daughter likes it.
Unfortunately, the economy, the lack of proper education and business understanding has created these design wannabes who go and hunt for $100 logo contests completely tearing down the creative industry.
It's sad that businesses like the one in the first post, pop up more and more... it shows how bad of a shape creative industry is in.
- akrok0
get a pro > http://www.horriblelogos.com/
- boobs0
It's hard to be a pimp out there!
I tell you, I try to teach these bitches about good design, nice stuff, and all they want to do is go straight for the ugly trash and cheap liquor.
- dbloc0
send them to me.
- moldero0
can we see the crow sourced logo submissions for some laughs
- jtb260
take the 5k and put it up on 99designs for $250. rake in the profit.
jk.
- OSFA0
5K? Do it and walk away... and never look back.
- maikel0
Charge said client 5K and crow source the job for 400 rupees.
O_O
- bjladams0
i suppose it's not really that different from working with a clients that already have logos and are set in their ways - just that their pre-existing logo hasn't been made yet.
- ian0
Well go into it with open eyes, cos if their logo is coming from that cess-pool I guarantee it's going to be a nightmare working with it and their requests.
- hellojeehae0
outsource it
- monospaced0
fuck it, get as much money as you can, do the least amount of work as possible, spit out pieces to match the quality of the logo and fucking run with the cash
- never show anyonemonospaced
- in fact, request your name never be mentioned in the same sentence as his companymonospaced
- haha end thread this is perfectOP31
- boobs0
But the contract to do the rest of the work is over $5k. Bit hard to turn down since cash has been short.
And I am curious what sort of cunty bit of shit they'll end up getting...
- including a website!?monospaced
- Over $5k. Simple Wordpress site.boobs
- Fax_Benson0
according to their website 99designs do stationery and brochures too. I'd tell the client that if they get their logo done there, they should stay there.
- d_rek0
Tell them you're going to start crowdsourcing clients.
You're going to take said clients and let anonymous nobodies determine their scope, budgets, timetables and projects.
They won't fucking believe it.