wtf is this?
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- Sep0
There are to many shitty bands in the world. How about giving the really good ones a certificate and ban all the others?
'cause really... All these people listening to bad music makes me sick...
- luckystrike3330
@brodyR, I am sure they might have a few seats left. I just checked out your website and sounds like this offer is right up your alley.
I'm a bit confused why affordable solutions in this economy is a bad idea?
Should everything of value cost an arm and a leg?
- No things should cost what they are worth.tOki
- Something is only worth what the market will pay. Basic economics.ETM
- Sadly, a good portion of the market is not willing to pay like it used to whether its music, movies or design.ETM
- I work for a company 60k + a year jackass.....where is your website?brodyR
- pr20
everything of value cost arm and a leg because it takes lots of expertise or time to do that...
- luckystrike3330
Time + Knowledge = Price (value)
Seems like this concept shortens the time and spreads the knowledge.
- Shoe0130
@Luckystrike - I agree, you cannot hate on someone because they came up with a good idea on how to use their time and knowledge more efficiently.
The reality is that no industry stays the same. People need to evolve with the market. This site has done just that. They saw a market for small business owners with a low budget due to a bad economy and provided a solution. Don't Hate! Participate!
- stop being a dick head and look at the real problem.brodyR
- and that problem is?luckystrike333
- ETM0
Separating pros from hobbiests, that's what education, experience and talent does. Like any profession. There is always the bottom feeding clients who want things cheap, they will always want that and there will always be bottom feeding people to provide the services. That's just life.
The writing is on the wall with our industry that it's becoming a commodity. Small business doesn't often care about original design, they just need 'design'. Templates, crowd sourcing, square space style sites. Great design is a need we tell small business they must have. Its something many never had 20 years ago. We created a need, then over saturated it, thought ourselves too self important, some designers raped clients with billings and now there is a fatigue and wariness.
Also, people's thinking is becoming less about individual ownership of something they pay for and more about something cheap and readily available.... music, tv, movies etc. $.99 games and shows on iTunes for example. This includes design on some levels.
The future money is in delivery systems for content, not always making content. By content I mean everything, templates, logos, movies, games, websites etc.
- It sucks, but it's true. We need to adapt rather than kick and scream like old media is doing now.ETM
- ETM0
Are you serious? You really think a web designer is anywhere on the same level of education, public and personal safety, ethics or morality of the professions you list. FFS
- oddslob0
They darn tootin' should be. Am i RIGHT people?!?!
- brodyR0
yes i do.
- ETM0
So a doctor can harm or kill you through malpractice, a lawyer can misrepresent you to the point of you being jailed etc, an architect could design an unsafe structure that could cause bodily harm or death should it fail.
So what are the grave affects or ramifications to not performing your duties as a designer?
- This website:
http://boxedweb.biz/…Sep - Who cares? Shit like this is as old as websites themselves.ETM
- ZIIIIIIIING SEP!Hombre_Lobo_2
- do I need 3D glasses to watch that clip?fooler2
- This website:
- brodyR0
@ETM
I would go as far as saying they should be regulated, I do like the thought of certifications if they can be done right. deadbeats who dive in to web design who have no clue what they are doing are giving web design industry a bad name. You dont see this with architects.
- ksv1230
his bugged eyes scared me into going.
- brodyR0
The hole in these arguments is the level to which ‘good enough’-syndrome has infected most (especially small) businesses. When good enough is the benchmark, buying the receptionist Publisher beats hiring a designer. In some sectors the bar is so low, ‘better than nothing’ is actually still (almost) true.
The no-certification camp seems to unanimously say “those arent our clients, they get what they pay for”—and I agree with that: Self-regulate: you dont get stuck doing shitty work for cheapskates that want custom work at clip art prices if you dont take those jobs in the first place. No matter how good one’s work is, or how cheap you make yourself, its pretty hard to compete with free, so dont.
I personally am all for anything that would help separate the qualified pros from the amateur/hobbyist.
- Mr_Right0
Gill Sans ?