wtf is this?
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- Shoe0130
@Luckystrike - I agree, you cannot hate on someone because they came up with a good idea on how to use their time and knowledge more efficiently.
The reality is that no industry stays the same. People need to evolve with the market. This site has done just that. They saw a market for small business owners with a low budget due to a bad economy and provided a solution. Don't Hate! Participate!
- stop being a dick head and look at the real problem.brodyR
- and that problem is?luckystrike333
- luckystrike3330
Time + Knowledge = Price (value)
Seems like this concept shortens the time and spreads the knowledge.
- pr20
everything of value cost arm and a leg because it takes lots of expertise or time to do that...
- luckystrike3330
@brodyR, I am sure they might have a few seats left. I just checked out your website and sounds like this offer is right up your alley.
I'm a bit confused why affordable solutions in this economy is a bad idea?
Should everything of value cost an arm and a leg?
- No things should cost what they are worth.tOki
- Something is only worth what the market will pay. Basic economics.ETM
- Sadly, a good portion of the market is not willing to pay like it used to whether its music, movies or design.ETM
- I work for a company 60k + a year jackass.....where is your website?brodyR
- mikotondria30
This is about the sales process, not the product; his market is those people who have a few 100 dollars but can't be upsold something half-decent for three times that, plus an on-going, plus, plus..
If he gets to your prospects before you do, it shouldn't take much to nail a contract..
- Shoe0130
How does offering something like boxedweb.biz imply that those designers are less qualified then other people? Certification or not the concept is genius. This simply caters to small business owners who cannot afford designers who charge 4 times that amount.
In other words I do not see how this workshop automatically throws them into the "amateur" or "hobbiest" group. This is just a solid marketing strategy to create a win for the user and a win for the designers.
- Sep0
There are to many shitty bands in the world. How about giving the really good ones a certificate and ban all the others?
'cause really... All these people listening to bad music makes me sick...
- plash_two0
I find that working with larger established clients separate the pros from the amateurs. knowing how to write proposals, rfqs'/rfps' and basically knowing how to sell your services.
it doesn't bother me when i see or hear about designer horror stories. every industry has its share of hacks. i pride myself in knowing i am not one of them, but really in the end any medium to large company will not trust their projects to someone who can't formally show proper project details/specs and builds.
and i also agree with ETM. "The future money IS in delivery systems for content," yet i still think content is king, anyone who figures out this delivery puzzle will be making a lot of money. all the large media providers are doing just that, finding their delivery nitch. a good example of this is Valve (game developers) with the Steam Client, also google tv and hulu ..(off the top of my head) ..
- "Content is King". True, but dynamics are changing when content is created by many rather than few.ETM
- herzo0
This >I personally am all for anything that would help separate the qualified pros from the amateur/hobbyist.
- isnt that what your college degree is for? to separate those who are great vs not?epilI
- I find that the college degree is a touchy subject for the people without it,.plash_two
- then isnt that what your portfolio is for? to help bridge that gap of degree vs. none?epilI
- it should be. yes. i just know i have gotten in to many heated arguments about the formal education.plash_two
- As far as I am concerned Talent (1) then education/experience (2) separates good from bad.ETM
- Mr_Right0
"The future money is in delivery systems for content, not always making content. By content I mean everything, templates, logos, movies, games, websites etc."
This is right in line with what I've been thinking this past year. I know the way I have been working in the past 10 years is gone forever, and I'm trying to figure out how to make a living (survive) for the next 10 years. Time to step up and put my plan into action.
- do you need a website for your plan ?mikotondria3
- haha, in the same boat as me eh?
Mr_Right - Lets start a think tank and get funding.ETM
- epilI0
to define any creative stance with-in a cookie cutter shape would hurt your industry more than help it.. it would mean to cut all your efforts of creativity to nothing but what is "regulated" by people whim most likely would not be creatives, thus leaving you in a worse position to make any newness happen.
but if that is what you want then go for it. implement those sorts of boundaries on your creativity and your processes to fit inside that cookie cutter shape someone outside of all things you do would regulate.
good luck with that one..
- Lets also not forget the fees on us that come from such regulatory bodies.ETM
- Miesfan0
seems you don't get good kerning...
- Mr_Right0
Gill Sans ?
- ksv1230
his bugged eyes scared me into going.