Adobe + Microsoft
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- raf0
"if you ask me they don't look after there best customers - us."
Hahahaa... Apple regained their strong position when they started to ignore designers and started to look after the average user.
They officially declared the pareto principle to be their rule: cater for 80% of regular users, ignore 20% of power users.
Do you think iMacs would be glossy if they were meant for professional work? Hahaha...
Yet still, designers think Apple is supprosed to work for them and they get angry when Apple releases a product which is clearly not meant for them (ie. MacBook Air).
- <randommail
- shit you nailed itgeorgesIII
- About right.pillhead
- Glitterati_Duane0
I don't care if they put out crappy products like the air if the hypnotized masses will buy them and keep Apple in business. As long as they keep making Mac Pro's as well I'm good.
- See? Air is a great computer but it can't run photoshop, it's not for you, so you must slag it.raf
- Yep. I primarily use my computers for work so...Glitterati_Duane
- Apple product not meant for you = shit? So many designers here have this approach.raf
- randommail0
Non-pirated Adobe CS running on Mac OS.
Is it safe to assume less than 2% market share?- ...or a legit student version to start, then cheap updatesTenaciousG
- it's closer to 40%/60% Adobe couldn't survive without Mac sales for nowPIZZA
- Pizza, I meant 2% market share of all PCs.randommail
- Glitterati_Duane0
@ raf. I don't think all Apple products not targeting designers are crap. I'm just not a fan of the Air. The lack of CD drive and other peripherals make it annoying for casual users too. For me it was one product that bought into the stereo type of Apple products being more flash than substance.
- It was built with 1 main purpose (as its name says itself): to be lightweight. It's perfect for ie. women who otherwise...raf
- ...would have to run around with a 3 kilogram bulky laptop. It is perfect. If CD is needed, can be attached.raf
- Sorry about repeating "perfect", there are more Steveese words: phenomenal, remarkable, magical, etc...raf
- TenaciousG0
Things like the iMac and the Air were never meant to be professional tools. You wouldn't use an Eee PC to run Photoshop, would you?
- PIZZA0
Dream situation, Microsoft buys Adobe and Shantanu Narayen gets busy sucking Ballmers greasy chode. The few remaining shreds of talent leave adobe (After Effects team and a few people from Photoshop, rest can die in a fire) and start up a company that actually makes decent software.
Meanwhile Narayen and Microsoft 3rd world outsourcing efforts make CS7 the shittiest buggiest crap yet and it's Rare Software all over again, truck of money for utter tosh.
- SteveJobs0
i don't think this acquisition will happen, but if it did, it would effectively turn Apple into a mobile company over night. their desktop platform has been neglected for a long time in favor of iOS, leaving it with a lack of games, productivity software and anything that would make it a viable contender in the business realm.
MS knows it's losing grip to the average computer user, so this would be a very lucrative acquisition for them.
- SteveJobs0
@kpl
perhaps. i'm just stating my opinion, which is purely conjecture. but valve just finally had enough faith in the platform to port steam this year. windows users have been enjoying that service for years now. anyway, i wouldn't go as far as calling it a black hole for games, but when someone is considering a computer for gaming, they'll invariably choose a pc over a mac, and if ms and adobe get in bed together, this won't help in that area at all.
- ukit0
It seems like a lot of people assume Microsoft could somehow make Adobe stop supporting the Mac platform. I don't think that's within the realm of serious possibility.
- formed0
Interesting idea. MS has the cash to easily buy Adobe and it'd, more or less, make them "cool" again (or rather, make them tolerable).
MS needs to do something. The cash they have on hand is insane.
(why they are borrowing cash now is beyond me)
- bzsaw0
I'd rather go back to using Rubylith, Letraset, X-acto & my Stat Camera.
- dbloc0
Microbe
- kpl0
@SteveJobs,
Apple has not been neglecting OS X. Blocks, Grand Central Dispatch, etc., nearly everything new on the iOS platform dev-wise originated in OS X or is shared with it... iOS and Mac OS both are still Darwin. iWork is Apple's project on getting Office-independent and it's slow in updating but it's still a viable alternative. Macs sales are up 200% in enterprise/government, the Obama Administration are fanboys. Gaming is moving (gradually) towards Macs, not away from it, and there are plenty of gamers out there who aren't hardcore, gaming-first computer users. Mac OS X is not declining, so I don't know what informs your opinion, and if Adobe pulls CS, it's a hit sure, but not everyone who uses a mac is using it for photoshop.
- also, adobe will do nothing for MS for the desktop. the point of any merger would be mobile.kpl
- NONEIS0
If you cant beat em, BUY em.
- jfletcher0
I love how so many people think MS will ruin Adobe? Really?? Each time a new CS is released, I have to add 4 more gigs of RAM to my computer. It's bloated. If anything I think Adobe might be *less efficient than MS, which is surprising, but very possible.
My only concern is they could try to merge things like Illustrator and Blend... then my head might explode. I like the idea, but thinking about the UI... although a lot of people do love Visual Studio.... so... who knows.
- neowe0
Microbe Adsoft SE™ will be the only software they make. it will do everything.... web, databases, print, audio, spreadsheets, code, ftp, network, motion... poorly.
- jetSkii0
Apple should just release their own Creative Suites then. Just as Apple created Final Cut Pro which blew Adobe Premiere out of the waters for an entire decade. I surely would love a better graphic app that had a better ui