Canon 5d mark II vs 7d
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- mydo0
why not wait just another day or two for the 60D?
isn't that better than the t2i for about the same price, or did i miss something?
- 60D is $1000+ body only. Same as t2i (plastic body), but with articulated screen, intermediate ISO, and faster frame burstDoTheMacarena
- frame burst (but not as fast as 7D)DoTheMacarena
- shoto_can0
don't get that piece of bad plastic 18-55
- JSK0
I used t2i / mkii / 7D
I prefer mkii. Quality is so much better.
When are auto zooming with t2i it's just not there.If you watch anthony bourdane on travel network, it's half shot with mkii.
- For a $99 you can get a 50mm 1.8 prime. This will be way better then the kit lens for video.nosaj
- +100 on that 50mm. Can't get a more useful lens for that $$.DoTheMacarena
- it has a terrible focus ring for video shooting. my only gripe with it.ephix
- I was watching the making of the India episode and they said they use 7D's. I have the 5DMKII and love it.bigkidfallsdown
- vaxorcist0
use primes... they are soooo much easier for video once you're used to them... follow-focus on many zooms is not nearly as smooth or precise, some zooms change focal length a bit when you focus, causing your image to jump a bit when you just want a subtle focus shift effect...
old Nikon AI primes on a $20 EOS adapter are my favorites... such smooth focus, nice contrast, etc..
shooting video on a 5D/7D/T2i with the $99 kit lens is not what it should be....
- acescence0
this is why you need constant aperture zooms for video and why I think the two lenses in that kit won't work out very well for you:
http://www.builtbyugene.com/mov_…
see the aperture change as it zooms?
- << this. f5.6 is not very wide - you'll constantly be shooting at high iso because of this.bigtrick
- Hombre_Lobo0
http://www.qbn.com/topics/638966…
GH-1 is better than them all! enjoy :)
- when i say better i mean pure video quality (obviously crop factor is a preference)Hombre_Lobo
- datnatikid0
FINAL DECISION:
I'm gonna go for the T2i !!!
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-18…
Or if any else can find a better kit to purchase, please leave a link!
Thanks to everyone who replied.
- acescence0
also note that when using a zoom lens for video, you need a constant aperture lens or you'll see it jump between f-stops.
- DoTheMacarena0
If you're purchasing mostly for video, I'm not sure that the 7D warrants the 2x price tag over the t2i. There's some nice pro still features, an alloy body, and intermediate ISO settings, buuuut that's about it. Same sensor, same video capture capabilities. I say, either drop the cash for the 5D, or just go with the t2i.
The advantages of the full frame sensor are, as noted before, a shallower DoF (but not a ton), cleaner low-light, and you don't have the 1.6x crop factor. That's a pretty big deal, as with the 7D and t2i, your lenses are not as wide as they would be with the 5D. A 20mm, for instance, essentially becomes a 31mm on the smaller sensor.
So, it all really depends on your budget and what you really plan on doing. If you have the cash to drop, just get the 5DmkII, some nice lenses, and a redrock setup, and call it a day. But, the t2i really, really is an excellent camera, and definitely worth considering if you are strapped for budget, and will free up some cash that you can immediately dump into your soon-to-have endless void of desire for new camera gear.
- without cinie lenses you will have to pull focus manually and as 5d doesn't output HD signal during recording you are fucked.pr2
- plus lack of intermediate ISO settings on t2i is a HUGE deal.pr2
- 5d doesn't output HD during recording? That wasn't addressed in the firmware update? That's unfortunate to hear.DoTheMacarena
- hear.DoTheMacarena
- 5D has oddball video output while shooting... we now use a Marshall Monitor, focus outlines help alot!vaxorcist
- datnatikid0
thinking about getting this kit:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digi…
- surfito0
get extra stuff with the extra cash, and go 7d. but everything less than that is not pro.
fullframe is great for fashion photography, not really a difference in video.- good point
datnatikid - explain the cons of "not pro"bigtrick
- good point
- JSK0
BUY A LEICA M9
- nosaj0
The 7D 720P 60FPS is nice. Let's you overcrank for slow motion, I don't think the 5D can do this. The T2i is nice (we use it as a second camera with the 7D) but limited controls.
- pr20
In a way all people posting above are all right but in reality they are also all wrong as everyone is picking on one feature saying "And this is why this camera is better..." While in actuality only a camera that's most rounded (there is no camera that's all pluses or minuses) is best to you. You have to look at all the pluses and minuses and see which minuses you can live with and then based on that make your decision.
- datnatikid0
5d only shoots in 24p
while 7d can do multiple rates
- bigtrick0
the biggest advantage for fullframe vs cropframe, imagewise, is shallower DOF, and hence, better subject-background isolation and smoother bokeh.
- ahh .. that is what i was really concerned about too ... the whole DOF advantagesdatnatikid
- if you don't have full-frame, you're only using part of the lens, waste of good glass!acescence
- but also remember that for some uses, crop frame actually is more forgiving of sloppy focusvaxorcist
- pr20
- Chief0
i got the 7D right after it was released. put the extra money towards a lens and the z-finder. i'd rather have the 5D, but i couldn't live without the z-finder. when the 5D is updated, i'll upgrade.