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- broxybluenose
Anyone ever defragmented their mac?
Worth doing?
- zaq0
When you own a PC, you need to pay attention to things like defragmenting your hard-drives, installing and updating antivirus, antivandal and firewall software. If you switch to a Mac, you need worry a lot less about such things. I’m not saying you should be complacent, but things generally just work much more easily and straightforwardly.
Your Mac has built-in maintenance routines that run periodically, and – for the most part – you will have a simpler computing experience that requires you to spend much less time under the hood tweaking things.- thanks for informing me about the different between pc and mac. But is it worth doing?broxybluenose
- Well if it doesnt, it should have that feature. My mac takes a solid minute to close down firefox.CygnusZero4
- That Firefox issue is due to proxy connect settings. Is it happening at work on a T1/T3 secure LAN? Or at home on a cable modem? Firefox runs differently here at work behind a firewall than at home. Same 9 core setup, same OS.nthkl
- cable modem.nthkl
- GRAC0
I've tried once. Windows routines. Haven't noticed much difference.
- Jurre0
After 3 years (and one upgrade to Mac OS X) my mac suffers from crashes, usb dropouts that loses data from HDs/CF cards, finder crashes and general fuck ups, black screens. Is my Mac toast or do i need to defragment as well? This is my first mac, and i am haven more issues (besides the lack of spyware, oh no! Had that too) than I ever had on PC. I am just working on it, nothing else.
Oh, and I hate Steve Jobs, what a prick.
// end of rantHow's windows 7?
- That is the worst littany of Mac failures I've ever heard. Spyware??
And yes, Jobs is a prick.CyBrain - Probably RAM or HD problems.monospaced
- Also, I don't think there is much spyware on macsmonospaced
- reinstall the osdoesnotexist
- thank you i'll go for a reinstallJurre
- That is the worst littany of Mac failures I've ever heard. Spyware??
- indian_pole0
i tend to just do a zero out data when i install a new operating system, maybe once a year. works for me.
- overkillmonospaced
- not really- real easy to dodoesnotexist
- broxybluenose0
I find programs and finder crashes a lot. Even when just quitting photoshop/after effects, it takes so long and sometimes I need to force quit. Would defragmenting help this?
- Didsomething0
For defragmentation you could try http://www.coriolis-systems.com/…
For total maintenance http://creativebe.com/mainmenu/ is quite good
- Raniator0
Onyx
- AbsolutlyDidsomething
- < Thismeffid
- yup********
- Only it does nothing to defrag.raf
- Because you don't need to defrag. This ain't Windows, son!Raniator
- raf0
I find OSX to be the best system around, but there are many myths and misconceptions. It can get messy, it can become pain in the ass.
Contrary to popular beliefs, HFS+ does not defragment itself. It only defragments small files and those not in use (or those in use, can't remember now).
Defragmenting can speed up a cluttered system, but that's all. It won't fix crashes etc.
Defrag software is a bit pricey, you can achieve that result by cloning the drive to a new drive (with free software) then cloning it back. Files will be defragmented.
- what you recommened doing with my buggy mac? Complete reinstall? New computer?Jurre
- Complete reinstall. Mine has been updated from Tiger to Leopard and SL and moved to new computers over 4 yrs...raf
- It works well for the most part, but I will reinstall it when I get a new drive. Mind you, most mess is likely to be in...raf
- ...home folder, so just copying all of it to the new system is not going to help much.raf
- reinstall and put lal your files back on apart from apps and things in /LibraryPIZZA
- meffid0
OxyMoron.
- acescence0
the HFS+ filesystem avoids and actively removes fragmentation as long as you maintain a healthy amount of free space on your drive. defrag tools for OS X are a waste of money.
- ********0
defragmented was something you did 10 years ago with OS 9, but OS X is a completely different, I would not bother.
- Jurre0
I really want to switch back to PC, principially, because apple has become what they raged against (1984 ad anyone?). They have now become an arrogant superpower. I like Adobe a hell of a lot more than I like Apple, it's the same but Faster on PC. But then again, I might never get used to pc again. I might just have a dodgy mac. Anyone has any experience with Windows 7? I am seriously looking into that. Thank you.
- don't be mental, you'd be a fool to leave mac!broxybluenose
- Stop whining, buy a f**king PC or run diagnostics and look for hardware issues.comicsans
- If you want to run Windows, fucking install it on the Mac already and stop bitching like a little bitch.monospaced
- haha ok then. Mac fans are offputtingly fanatic aren't they??Jurre
- raf0
Stop whining Jurre, you are being emotional about a tool. OSX is an operating system, not a magical whatever.
If you act on principle "They have now become an arrogant superpower. I like Adobe a hell of a lot more than I like Apple", I would rethink this position.
Your beloved Adobe, while holding a strong leading position on the market, bough out Macromedia, their only competition.
Then they went on to axe one product in each category (Freehand, GoLive, ImageReady).Now they have a monopoly for professional graphic editing software,
being able to dictate higher prices with each release.
I can choose not to use Apple by buying Windows, but there is no escaping Adobe.Possibly in a few years we will be thankful to Apple for using their superpower position to enforce free standards on the web, trumping Adobe Flash.
We'll hate them for some other stuff of course :)
- comicsans0
End-user defragmentation is necessary for Windows file systems like NTFS and FAT, Unix file systems tend not to need it as they are more intelligently implemented. Defragging a mac might affect boot time a little but I doubt you could measure the difference.
What problem are you having that you imagine defragmentation might solve?
- I saw a noticeable difference having defragmented OSX.raf
- PIZZA0
"After 3 years (and one upgrade to Mac OS X) my mac suffers from crashes, usb dropouts that loses data from HDs/CF cards, finder crashes and general fuck ups, black screens"
You know how when you have a computer and it works great, then you upgrade and you give your old one to your parents. Then you go home 6 months later and some how they managed to make the thing run like shit because they are just so generally clueless about how to use a computer but you can't quite figure out how they managed to make it run so badly and why programs are fucking up so much when they used to run fine.
Yeah guessing Jurre is like that because none of that shit sounds normal.
"I find programs and finder crashes a lot. Even when just quitting photoshop/after effects, it takes so long and sometimes I need to force quit. Would defragmenting help this?"
No... all it does is move files around so their data isn't spread across the whole disk. It'll make video play smoother/big files load faster but wont fix any problems. Sounds like you hosed your OS install in some way, do an "archive and install" from the OS X disk.
- ok so i am the problem, fine. Thanks for the help :-)Jurre
- monospaced0
Sounds like you have a problem with your memory or your hard drive.
- HD Corruption or bad ram can definitely cause Finder/app crashes.PIZZA
- monospaced0
"HD Corruption or bad ram can definitely cause Finder/app crashes."
Guaranteed. If this is happening regularly. Backup now and look into a replacement hard drive...now. Test your RAM (you're a big boy Jurre, Google it).
- jaylarson0
Run SMART Utility to check yr disk:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/m…
- flashbender0
^^ that
back up to time machine
backup your important data to a different drive
run Onyx and clean the shit out everything.