Tools for the Job.
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- spendogg0
Ask him why you have CS3 and not CS1 or eariler
- ideaist0
“Growth for the sake of growth in my opinion is not progress.” - David Reid
- More features = less fundamentals...ideaist
- Patronizing bullshit.winnie_the_shit
- Or time-tested truth...ideaist
- I'm simply stating that fundamentals are what is important here...ideaist
- Yes, only this isn't about skills it's about tools. I appreciate what you're trying to say tho.winnie_the_shit
- What are tools without skills? It's a frustrating argument as so many try to stay "current"...ideaist
- ...In a world that changes every second and this change is documented by everyone in a digital realm...ideaist
- Can you tell me how I can use what you're saying to get my boss to buy me new tools?winnie_the_shit
- haha; just ranting really... I think it's an easy business decision; buy only when a want becomes a need...ideaist
- flashbender0
Companies are all about money, right?
You need to provide an argument about how it will be better for the company's bottom line to upgrade... then they will listen
"Me want shiny new toy!" does not make the company any more money.
- duckofrubber0
Why haven't you upgraded to CS4?
However, I would stick with CS3...
- ukit0
Two words: Content-aware Phil
- winnie_the_shit0
Fair enough.
How about if we downgraded to Photoshop 4, Windows 2000, and instead of Illustrator.. we used oil paints, and we coded all of our HTML with tables and gifs, and FONT tags.
- and listened to Cypress Hill! See, bonus already.winnie_the_shit
- cashface0
Playing the devils advocate:
Upgrading is expensive and your boss needs to see a Return On Investment. If it doesn't make anymore money, then why bother.What you want to hear:
Great idea, let's upgrade and fuck istock images, we're using all getty and pizza party!!
- mrghost0
why do these tools have jobs?
- Ranger0
What parts of CS3 are we talking about? CS4 wasn't worth bothering with for most apps. And from a bosses point - 3 CS releases in 4 years, money, money, money. Still, if he is charging right and making his ROI then why not keep up to date.
- winnie_the_shit0
So, if upgrading were free.. There would be no problems?
So really.. what you guys are saying here.. is that Upgrading is good.. but spending money is bad.. The value is the problem.. not the actual functionality, creative enhancements, features, etc.
Is Adobe primed for a usurper?
Just like QuarkXPRESS, sat on it's hands for years and did nothing to upgrade themselves.. then POW.. Adobe Indesign.
- Value today (to the majority of people) is only seen as a $ amount...ideaist
- ...and... therefore...winnie_the_shit
- haha; therefor your boss will see no value in investing in something cutting edge...ideaist
- unless it is in fact (or if can convince him) a necessity... Want becomes need...ideaist
- winnie_the_shit0
WO WOW WOAH
OR.. is upgrading seen as some kind of anti-skill? Where you become more "elite" skill wise if you use some ancient technology. You become some kind of masochistic flagship of some bygone software era.
There was a recent issue of Computer Music, and they were interviewing Jon Hopkins.. and he was saying that he still makes all his music in an old version of Sound Forge, and he was saying how it gets the job done.. so why change it.
Is that just a case of the software becoming the process? Or is it just the utility borne from being a broke-ass musician. I feel that one, I used a copy of Jeskola Buzz beta for almost 10 years to write music with. I recently upgraded all my music writing software.. and it really shows in the end product.
So maybe I am just on an "upgrade kick" and overvaluing it?
- Society drives people to be "current" rather than "passe"...ideaist
- People on the forefront are seen as "Avant-garde" or ahead of what is current...ideaist
- You are simply wanting to be current... & their is nothing wrong with that!!! ; )ideaist
- a bad carpenter blames his toolsplash
- a good carpenter sleeps next to his tools...ideaist
- I'm not blaming my tools. I just want fancy new ones.winnie_the_shit