Lazy developers
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- must_dash0
Getting .psd's, is that like how web sites were made IN BLOODY 1997!
- ukit0
I think there are really three separate skillsets:
Designer
Front End Developer
"Real" DeveloperThe real developer couldn't give a shit how something looks. The front end developer, ideally, knows HTML and CSS inside and out and has an eye for design, but in reality there are only like 3 of them in the world that are any good. The designer may know the stuff but they feel it is beneath their paygrade/ demeaning to crack open a code editor.
- SPECTACULAR0
DEVELIPMENT == functionalaty!!!!
YEW CANT PAINT FUNCTIONALATY on a cart...
ITZ EAZY-E 2 USE THE BLUEPRINT( THE CODEZ FROM THE PREVIOUS PROJECT) 2 BUILD THE CAR (DROP DOWN MENU)!!!! thas how OOP wurks!!!????- and the BEST develipers can make the design transforum with the code.SPECTACULAR
- PonyBoy-1
"its just easier to use the drop down from the previous site"
I'd like to see them in turn use that argument w/a repair paint job to their car...
"we used the paint color from the last job we did... it was just easier"
- I deal with that logic all day man. all day.sofakingbanned
- sofakingbanned0
rosem
thats not mine or ponyboys job. that's what those fuckers are getting paid to do.
so your logic is I have to do 2 peoples jobs because that fucker cant handle simple directions?
- sofakingbanned0
I hear you on this thread. i cant for the life of me get my developers to stick to the psds i give them. its really simple stuff too.
me: "make the drop down like this and in this color"
them: "its just easier to use the drop down from the previous site"Shit like that alllllllllll day.
- bcuz if the wheel works, why invent the wheel again for use again?SPECTACULAR
- to a certain point, but changing the color is not going to impact his day, i mean come onsofakingbanned
- SPECTACULAR0
rosam; i thank yew mean "mural":
- rosem0
moral of the story... if you want something done right — do it yourself.
- monNom0
Not saying it's right, just that it will probably never change. I deal it with constantly and that's my working theory anways.
As for how I handle it: Important stuff gets marked-up by me. Less important I generally let the minor imperfections slide.
- PonyBoy-1
monNom...
... the PSD's are pixel-perfect... all objects cut to 5px... I don't buy the argument you're making. These PSD's are like a fucking IKEA box w/directions... you really can't go wrong.
As for me developing... I can handle my own (both cut and dev... flash... php... etc)...
... I wasn't hired for that.... someone else was - and they're not doing their fucking job. :)
You're all so cute. :)
- no you are telling that an Ikea assembly cannot go wrong? If there are humans involved everything always can go wrong!maikel
- WRONG!
maikel - Ikea is hard!sneakybadger
- SPECTACULAR0
YEA INSTEAD OF COMPLaining yew can reed a book or sumthin... every develiper has to develipmnent sum codez that will develip that applicashun. know wander he lookz like hes mad at yew!!!!!! HAHAHA???
- monNom0
Most developers haven't developed the eye for composition and spacial harmony that designers have. The ability to distinguish what's wrong with a design is something you have to work at.
Think of how ugly your drawings were as a kid. You had no concept of what was wrong with them, or how to make them better.
That said, I've helped out on some relatively heavy development work with a seasoned developer... my code laughed at.
It cuts both ways
- hilchev0
actually you are the lazy bastard, drawing pics and expect miracles with minimal input, wait for the "lazy designers" topic ... omg!!!
- ernexbcn0
hire me next time
- ukit0
Whatever man I know you are just up in there smokin weed all day...so don't complain...developer was probably high too.
- quack0
how much for the button?
- PonyBoy-1
so what some of you clowns are saying is that a developer who's been hired to cut and build a site, given all appropriate fonts, psd's and content... isn't to be held responsible for outputting things correctly?
It's 'his job'... he agreed to do his part... this includes following the presentation provided...
The psd's are built to the pixel... it doesn't take fucking rocket science to cut something up by the numbers... ... it takes a touch of patience and professionalism...
... especially when you've committed to it ahead of time.i'm not talking anything fancy here, guys... I'm talking simple info graphics that happen to be done in a custom font...
... example:
- <VectorMasked
- I can't buy anything when i click your link.d_rek
- I can. Send $ and Ill do it for you.Peter
- ctcliff0
Don't forget that custom fonts and image slicing takes more development time and costs more money. That stuff needs to be scoped out ahead of time.
- juhls0
Arial's fine. I thought you were going to say some obscure font.
- whatthefunk0
I'm not a CSS guy, more of a GUI guy but I measure the entire design and break apart each section with width and height outlines for header, nav, subnav, body, footer, etc. It helps the developer who does do CSS to make sure that it's all pixel perfect. I send over every font, all font sizes, colors, rollover states/colors, and I even measure the space between words in the nav. To be honest, if you leave your design in the hands of a developer without the above details or pure CSS then you shouldn't be surprised when it comes back all wonky, they're developers not designers.
- you're quite proud of OCD.airey
- there's the right way and the wrong way - not OCD just good designwhatthefunk
- No, that's OCD and vaguely insulting.welded