Lazy developers
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- quack0
how much for the button?
- pavlov0
thats another reason why i got out of web... too many developers ruining my shit
- What are you doing now?jonvictorino
- you can't learn?rosem
- I design primarily for band tour & retail merchandising. Quicker project turnarounds and less headaches...pavlov
- NONEIS0
That sounds more like incompetence than laziness...just sayin.
- ukit0
Whatever man I know you are just up in there smokin weed all day...so don't complain...developer was probably high too.
- ernexbcn0
hire me next time
- hilchev0
actually you are the lazy bastard, drawing pics and expect miracles with minimal input, wait for the "lazy designers" topic ... omg!!!
- monNom0
Most developers haven't developed the eye for composition and spacial harmony that designers have. The ability to distinguish what's wrong with a design is something you have to work at.
Think of how ugly your drawings were as a kid. You had no concept of what was wrong with them, or how to make them better.
That said, I've helped out on some relatively heavy development work with a seasoned developer... my code laughed at.
It cuts both ways
- SPECTACULAR0
YEA INSTEAD OF COMPLaining yew can reed a book or sumthin... every develiper has to develipmnent sum codez that will develip that applicashun. know wander he lookz like hes mad at yew!!!!!! HAHAHA???
- PonyBoy-1
monNom...
... the PSD's are pixel-perfect... all objects cut to 5px... I don't buy the argument you're making. These PSD's are like a fucking IKEA box w/directions... you really can't go wrong.
As for me developing... I can handle my own (both cut and dev... flash... php... etc)...
... I wasn't hired for that.... someone else was - and they're not doing their fucking job. :)
You're all so cute. :)
- no you are telling that an Ikea assembly cannot go wrong? If there are humans involved everything always can go wrong!maikel
- WRONG!
maikel - Ikea is hard!sneakybadger
- monNom0
Not saying it's right, just that it will probably never change. I deal it with constantly and that's my working theory anways.
As for how I handle it: Important stuff gets marked-up by me. Less important I generally let the minor imperfections slide.
- rosem0
moral of the story... if you want something done right — do it yourself.
- SPECTACULAR0
rosam; i thank yew mean "mural":
- sofakingbanned0
I hear you on this thread. i cant for the life of me get my developers to stick to the psds i give them. its really simple stuff too.
me: "make the drop down like this and in this color"
them: "its just easier to use the drop down from the previous site"Shit like that alllllllllll day.
- bcuz if the wheel works, why invent the wheel again for use again?SPECTACULAR
- to a certain point, but changing the color is not going to impact his day, i mean come onsofakingbanned
- sofakingbanned0
rosem
thats not mine or ponyboys job. that's what those fuckers are getting paid to do.
so your logic is I have to do 2 peoples jobs because that fucker cant handle simple directions?
- PonyBoy-1
"its just easier to use the drop down from the previous site"
I'd like to see them in turn use that argument w/a repair paint job to their car...
"we used the paint color from the last job we did... it was just easier"
- I deal with that logic all day man. all day.sofakingbanned
- SPECTACULAR0
DEVELIPMENT == functionalaty!!!!
YEW CANT PAINT FUNCTIONALATY on a cart...
ITZ EAZY-E 2 USE THE BLUEPRINT( THE CODEZ FROM THE PREVIOUS PROJECT) 2 BUILD THE CAR (DROP DOWN MENU)!!!! thas how OOP wurks!!!????- and the BEST develipers can make the design transforum with the code.SPECTACULAR
- ukit0
I think there are really three separate skillsets:
Designer
Front End Developer
"Real" DeveloperThe real developer couldn't give a shit how something looks. The front end developer, ideally, knows HTML and CSS inside and out and has an eye for design, but in reality there are only like 3 of them in the world that are any good. The designer may know the stuff but they feel it is beneath their paygrade/ demeaning to crack open a code editor.
- instrmntl0
Just start designing in Arial.
- must_dash0
Getting .psd's, is that like how web sites were made IN BLOODY 1997!
- PonyBoy-1
for all I know there is a 'front end developer' in use...
... I however have no control nor am in touch - I'm trapped outside w/nothing but a middleman making promises and continuously asking for 'help'.
As for your three-step deal... hell yeah, I'll sign on to that setup... unfortunately that's not the deal here... but does sound ideal...
... alas - I think we're going w/Arial regardless...
... and I've just been told that this person won't be used again in the future as they sold themselves as competent and able to cut html to the easier-than-shit specs laid out before them.
must_dash... what do you hand off when providing direction / assets for sites?... psd's is all I've ever know outside of the occasional fireworks or illustrator file (either is fine by me as long as you label your layers and provide all assets such as fonts... just like I've done this time and every time I'm hired to produce/design)...