Apps are not websites
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- MikeDubs
There is an alarming trend of iPhone application work out there right now and client after client can't seem to grasp what an application really is.
The biggest hurdle to creating good iPhone work is trying to educate clients on the difference between a website and an application. They look at their websites and mobile sites and say "put all of this into the app".
Is anyone else going through this? Am I just wrong in thinking that a website and an app are different by function?
- quantelpaintbox0
seconded, packaging a website up in an executable is idiotic.
If you are looking for a good example for an iPhone website that could have easily been an application but works great as a site then look at the dominos pizza uk ordering mobile site
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why is that easy ?
- It's easy for clients to disengage from understanding something new.MikeDubs
- ahh********
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- ernexbcn0
in related news the moon is not the sun, more at 11
- GeorgesII0
don't worry, just upload it to your facebook page and its done
- wtf are you talking about?monospaced
- thats what I tell my clients instead of telling them to GFTGeorgesII
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ya, it's retarded. they basically want an ebook created and want a flipbook "app", parading around like they make mobile apps
- quantelpaintbox0
iPhones apps are the new widgets
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/\ except they have GPS and accelerometers on the iPhone and touchscreen
- I mean in that clients want them but they don't know whyquantelpaintbox
- i hear ya...********
- MikeDubs0
I guess it leaves the question on how to change the perspectives of clients? Is it as simple as showing them successful applications that don't have all of the content of a website?
- monospaced0
I'm going through it right now. I have a friend who is developing an iPhone App for a company and has asked me to build out some visuals for it. I have finally realized that it's just an App that helps the user access the IDENTICAL content as on the website. I don't see this as a huge problem (think Facebook) but I do understand where you're coming from.
- ********0
Changing perspectives on clients is probably difficult because you'll what you're asking for is change. That's not a easy thing to ask a client.
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but are websites apps?
- the only real applications are the desktop applications********
- mobile apps can do many things desktop apps cannot********
- mobile application are confined to an embed system, you dont know what your talking********
- pretty sure you have never coded a desktop appli********
- you have cloud computing where apps like word can run off the browser.********
- i have programmed and designed a prototype app that runs off an microcontroller********
- the only real applications are the desktop applications
- scarabin0
i see three types of things happening:
1. apps
2. websites optimized for iphone browsing (not an app)
3. apps that are simply websites optimized for iphone browsing1 is what clients think they want because they hear there's money in apps.
3 is usually what they get because they have no real concept, just their existing website content.
you might say that because they have no concept, only website content, that they should go with 2. i would argue however that 3 is a fine solution because IT GETS THEM IN THE APP STORE while 2 does not.
that's increased visibility and impressions they wouldn't normally get if it was just an iphone accessible website.
- ********0
Not all websites are created equal:
1. You have websites that is purely editorial/information base
2. You have websites that are function as web-apps.
3. You you have interactive websites that function more like interactive movies that serve editorial content mostly to get you to buy into their product. (mostly flash based)- lol stop talking crap dude********
- why dont you go to some google talk conf, they all talk shit like you do********
- why don't you explain yourself instead of running that mouth of yours?********
- lol stop talking crap dude
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@ spraycan. you have a huge community of people who build web-applications. You're telling me that they're not applications? why?
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Convergence .. the gap between stateless websites and stateful desktop applications is decreasing.
The gap will soon be non-existent.
- ********0
The argument 'apps are not websites' doesn't have much going for it, for the above reason.
BUT .. I think it's worth arguing that you need more than a static website to create an engaging iPhone app.
However, maybe many websites include specific functionality that could translate to an 'app'.
