School of Saatchi
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- ckentish0
lukus - kind of agree but artists have always had patrons and the rich have always owned the 'best' art... so nothing new really. It was a very safe investment until last year when it started to behave like every other market, i.e. volatile and unstable... A lot of rich people sold their art last year to regain their losses from the financial crisis, hence reducing arts value. No market is safe shortterm, but property and art are safer bets over long periods of time.
- lukus_W0
If you have money buy art. Art generally increases in value - I reckon the investment is similar to reaching a save point in a video game. You raise your millions - invest it in the art world (which has become a financial token system) - your money is far safer than it would be if it was invested in the financial markets.
In this respect Sachi is a regulator and gatekeeper. His efforts are supported because he's effectively creating new capital by blessing new artists.
- there was a huge art market crash last year dude. no investment is safe or everyone would be rich.ckentish
- ckentish0
jamble - very old and tired view... the ones who get to the top aint stupid trust me
- no shit, what a dull attitude for a so called 'creative'.raskolnikov
- yep - very stooopid comment. Bet he reads the daily mail as well.ckentish
- jamble0
I always thought "modern art" was just something anyone could do but that the artists were just the ones who thought of palming it off as art rather than just random jibber jabber.
- u still think that after watching this ?WeLoveNoise
- WOT WOT ART WOT, fuck me the common man hath spoken, and what a resoundingly dull drone it was.raskolnikov
- raskolnikov0
I'm very much keen on 'modern' art, call it what you will, but this show and these artists fail, for me, because they produce nothing with any personality. Nothing has any meaning. There is literally no social commentary or narrative to glean from any of their superficial assemblages.
And look what 'won', the dizziest of them all, all because she happened to find a tree trunk smashed on top of a fence. Now don't get me wrong I thought it looked great, but it was a pure accident.
This is pub art, 'fun' ideas that 'become art' merely because someone has made them and put them in a space on a show. Saatchi has become Midas and to me is irresponsible with the power his money has brought. Careers are made and lost because he says so, should he buy a piece from a young artist they are immediately 'sought after' and the market is made. Midas goes on perpetuating the worth of the unworthy. Ultimately, you have to look at this show in it's correct context; it is a 'reality' TV show. A 'reality' that bears no relation to actual reality but a reality born through the eyes of TV producers needing to gain reactions from the public. boxes needed to be checked, demographics covered, emotions stirred.
All in all it's exactly what you would expect from Saatchi; hype and advertising.
- calculator0
- This guy was a real dick last night.calculator
- umm yeah he's been a dick throughout. Would have suited a punch on the nose from a couple of the others.raskolnikov
- WITH a couple of the others...babaganush
- gjd0
Don't wanna troll, I already mentioned it, but if you're watching this Saatchi show you should see what Robert Hughes said about all this a few years back, his little TV magnum opus, brilliant ideas
- ok, thanks troll, i'll check it out, as will everyone now you've posted it twicecalculator
- Yeah man, your precious thread, such a shamegjd
- yeah,my precious thread, i worked so hard on it.calculator
- ckentish0
she's also trapped inside her own anus - i went to art school and there were always a few pretty, middle class girls flirting/shagging lecturers to get ahead... she changes her cothes every shot - too fashion conscious - good artists influence fashion and don't follow it. she just doesn't seem v.bright
- i'd like to be trapped in her anuscalculator
- ermcalculator
- Yeah, but is she a dirty.pillhead
- BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD0
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The guy with the glasses who did the ghost huts was an absolute bell end, really annoying that his idea wasn't half bad in the end was hoping it would be shit.
Girl who did the radar thing was hot though
- calculator0
Eugenie Scrase...
- Dancer0
I only caught the final 10mins last nights. So is it worth watching it again?
- pillhead0
Small world sometimes, I used to see Saatchi virtually ever month when I was racing Karts in my teen years at Buckmore Park. At the time I did not really know how important he was, but I was always impressed with the sponsorship he had on his Kart, now I know why.
- pillhead0
You cannot blame Saatchi for not wanting to be on TV , let face it, it's complete brain dead shit on a very good day, and repeats on it's best days. As for the show well it's the same format as the stark effort, I like the Ghost shed made out of scaffolding, nice idea that worked well in it's environment.
- calculator0
I'm enjoying this programme in a way I didn't with the Stark show. It doesn't treat the viewer like an idiot for starters.
'Saatchi' Himself is irking me more and more. Are we, the plebeian TV viewing masses, not worthy to cast our eyes upon him? Even Simon Cowell isn't so far up himself.
- Doesn't help that he is being set up as some gatekeeper oracle enigma. Plays into his hands, distances the artgjd
- Dancer0
Just watched ^^^^ 'The Mona Lisa Curse' by Robert Hughes on youtube - really interesting, Robert Huges is a very insightful and intelligent man. I do think he has become a little cynical in his old age but still a very worth while watch
- gjd0
ps.
If School of Design was poor (even Starck ended up rejecting the winner from working with him), this show should be the final nail in the coffin of the Simon Cowell format transferring to visual arts.
- gjd0
Good antidote for this programme is 'The Mona Lisa Curse' by Robert Hughes (did that book Shock Of The New). Probably my favourite show in recent years.
Talks about the ridiculousness of the art market and it's purpose, how it drives educational systems to churn out artists to feed the hungry machine (ie. School of Saatchi), and how it will end up eating itself.This show pretty much proves how the art market tends to simply fuck things up and ultimately this show is advertising for Saatchi and money in the pockets of the powers that be.
- lukus_W0
The art world is bullshit .. arbiters of taste deciding what will have value, so people with too much money can keep their money safely invested.