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- jimzyk0
Jesus you played on the young lions?
You can just beat these guys up!They sound like complete wanks - i would stay well clear!
Nice work btw
- ********0
I do stuff for free all the time actually. For fun.
- ********0
This happened to me when I was first looking for jobs... I started to wonder what was up when they wanted the indesign files for the project as well.
- springbok0
Thanks for all the advice guys, I dont think I am going to name and shame them, I think I am just going to take this as a learning curve. I am still a bit worried about putting my work online, don't know why.
- It's possible that you will get something out of this, so I wouldn't react too quickly. You should be careful when dealing with these people if anything grows out of this.Josev
- these people if anything grows out of this.Josev
- if you want to show your work, just say it was pitch and name the agencyspendogg
- shitehawke0
Jesus H Christ on a pushbike. I got about two posts into this before I got angry. Don't work for these cunts because they will rape you.
"if you do work for an agency the agency owns the work" yes this is true, only if you're under contract for the agency and get fucking paid for the work you've put in.
Cunts. The sheer big balls of fucking brazen cheek does have to be admired though, I'll bet that chap has a neck like a jockeys bollocks.
- shitehawke0
Oh and springbok, I think you're right not to name and shame, it could lead to a clusterfuck and be very shady.
- gramme0
Good man for taking the high road. I agree with others, you own the work regardless of what the agency says. They could make a barely tenable case if you did the work on-site with their equipment, but it sounds like you worked from home on your own gear, yeah?
If you like the work, show it. If they send a cease and desist, I'd simply ignore it. If they have a sliver of intelligence, they'll know it's nothing but hot air.
- +1akrokdesign
- Yea thats right, I did it on my own gear in my own time.springbok
- gramme0
Also on the subject of ownership vs. self promo rights: even if they own the copyrights vis-a-vis you being an employee, you have the right to display the work online or in print, provided that you don't resell the work or lie about agency credits and/or your involvement in the project.
The only exception would be if you signed an all-inclusive NDA or a contract which specifically gave away all of your intellectual rights, in which case you'd be thoroughly bolloxed.
For example, I signed an NDA for only one specific project at my last job, and am thus unable to show it to anyone (in person or online) until the project is released to the public. Thankfully that was the only one.
- akrokdesign0
that sucks, happened to me this month to.
8 years ex. and they want me to create some ads, as a test. wft! (where's my baseball bat)
i didn't do the free ads even do i said okay at the interview, cause i wanted the job but in the car going back home i thought about it. how "this is not okay". i bet they going to use those ads for their client.
- rascuache0
I did an assesment, two in fact, when interviewing my current job (in house), I know they didn't use them, but I don't remember thinking it was abnormal at the time.
Why not just watermark all of your work with your name, anyway?
- MSTRPLN0
...and they used your "interview work" for their own pitching?
- i think a few of them does this. that's what i have heard.akrokdesign
- kezza_20
How do you know they used it in a pitch btw?
If they did I'd get a solicitor to write a letter with the usual day rate invoice attached for payment for the work given.
Bang Bang Bang out of order
- Samush0
does this company interview a lot and not actually employ anyone?
- MSTRPLN0
"We need to get this pitch out the door, the deadline is Thursday"
"Don't worry, I'll schedule a couple of interviews and we'll be set for the presentation"
"Make sure you interview a copywriter this time, we had some trouble the last time with the overall flow of things ..."
- springbok0
Thanks for all you responses guys. I can confidently showcase the work on my portfolio now.