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- Lets_not_pretend
So, I've always worked to about 11 pt type if the client wants to ensure most people can access your information (Print), but I really need some facts/articles/resources to back me up.
Does anyone know of anything I can show the client and work to to put their mind at rest/make them feel it is up to pre set standards?
- Chimp0
Whats it for? 11pt is a little large for body copy.
Show them a newspaper.
- Lets_not_pretend0
I thought that too, but it stipulates 11pt in the brief, so my hands are tied on that.
The previous version of the document had 7.5pt Lubalin Graph, white out of purple, haha, it's no fucking wonder they want it larger, I'd love to get my hands on the cretin who designed it.
11pt does look big to my eye, I may have to be crafty and use a condensed if it HAS to be 11pt.
Unless one of you can tell me otherwise, i.e. that 10pt is okay and back it up with some proof I may have to go for the 'visually impaired' 11pt!
- I meant 10pt in my original post btw, not 11! doh, is it 5:30 yet?Lets_not_pretend
- honest0
i always thought it was 6-7pt, but the old RNIB guidelines stipulate something like 12 on 14pt!
- FallowDeer0
I read on that smashing magazine that 13pt is normal for body copy!!!
- Lets_not_pretend0
Founds some new guidelines from RNIB that say 9-12pt, but that apparent height is more important, I think Ill stick at 10pt, and use a reasonably visually small typeface, now, which is more legible, serif or sans, that is the question!
- Just print it out. If it looks too big, it probably is. If it's too small, it probably is. Don't trust the screen or pt sizes.monospaced
- graham0
I think some people are confusing print pts and web pxs
- monospaced0
Uhhhhh...most type over 8-9pt looks horsey, especially for body copy. 90% of type-for-the-masses (newspapers, magazines, fiction) is that small. I still don't understand why people can't realize this.
I will design something in 8pt type, and my CD, who's older, say something like, "this is nice, but I think the type should be bigger." I ask him why, and he replies that many of the readers are older, like him. I ask him, "Can you read this?" Of course he can. And I always end with something like, then I'm sure the audience can as well. This happens too often.
- hallelujah0
sounds HUGE
- stewart0
depends on the x-height of the font.
you're the designer, you decide. there is no minimum font size.
- stem0
Some useful stuff on here.
- Sorry, missed your post above!stem
- That fucking website says 12-14pt for body copy! WORTHLESS!monospaced
- Oh wait, that's for partially sighted people. That resource is complete shite.monospaced
- "Image with the word text repeated "
are you blind or what?
oh waitstewart
- Nightshade0
For print I always used 6pt as minimum size.
- i wouldnt go any lower unless it was 'the small print' even then no less than 5ptmirrorball
- johndiggity0
really depends on the typeface you are using...
- jimzy0
yeah johndiggity's right.
you can have a certain typeface where 8pt is perfect or you can have others that can go smaller or larger and still be perefct.
monospace's reference to the newspaper is perfect. put a newspaper up against a printout of what you are working on and they'll realise it looks like text for people with half an eye, or small children...
- ARTsamurai0
I agree with Jimzy. Body copy should not be smaller than 8pt. sometimes i even sneak away with 7.5