good design?
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- ukit0
I think it is a reaction to what you said...not necessarily mocking, just reflecting reality.
- johndiggity0
"A year later, some corporate designer in a cubicle creates an annual report...and stretches the types just a little, and chooses mildly offensive colors. The ugliness is still there, it's just been watered down."
i thought this was interesting as i have the opposite view of all this—that it is coming from the people in the cubes designing report covers in ms word with clip art graphics. think about a lot of improvised signs you see taped on a bathroom door set in 48 point centered times new roman reading "DONT USE BATHROOM BROKE".
i'm trying to determine whether this is some sort of response to that aesthetic—is it purely like fashion? or is there some type of deeper commentary that is going on, like an inside joke between designers? design that is deliberately undesigned, so as to mock the wannabe designers and hobbyists that frequent competitions and logo contests.
- Countryman0
TRUE! and I hate it when people say "thats the design challenge" when they are talking about designing something with crappy content. A duck is a duck and no matter how you paint it or dress it up it will never be anything else.
When I run into a bad project like that, instead of convincing people to change the content or give me something to work with, I am just going to manage the mediocre as much as I can and get paid, put it behind me, and put my time and effort into something that will actually improve the world rather then proliferate crap.
- improve the world?neue75_bold
- aesthetically?neue75_bold
- make something beautiful, useful, meaningful, anything but useless crap.Countryman
- 98% of commercial graphic design revolves around useless crap..neue75_bold
- Donald will be offended with your duck mockery..freitag
- ThePublics0
if the content of the design is shit, the design is shit, doesn't matter how amazing the actual design work is - that is design's true dilemma.
- neue75_bold0
haha, I was just about to post this http://www.manystuff.org/
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- Etype0
bad design... what is this thread? why do you even need to ask this question
- designbot0
All of this reminds me of
- neue75_bold0
keep fucking that chicken..
- < someone hacked my accountneue75_bold
- < secret handshakeneue75_bold
- neue is the neue rand?typist
- just taking a troll down mammary lane..neue75_bold
- utopian0
Now do see what crack does to a designer!
- ukit0
It's a trend but like couture fashion. The pure versions created by the elite are some kind of comment on the disposable nature of digital culture. People call it the new trend and it gets filtered down into mass production...
A year later, some corporate designer in a cubicle creates an annual report...and stretches the types just a little, and chooses mildly offensive colors. The ugliness is still there, it's just been watered down.
- I still rather see this than another spinning, whirring website for nike or another lame poster by iso50..neue75_bold
- Yeah, I guess given those 3 options, it's not so bad...ukit
- i guess the difference is scott probably thinks his typography is actually good...neue75_bold
- at least good enough to sell..neue75_bold
- Who are these "elite" in which you speak of...is there some kind of secret handshake I should learn? :)designbot
- Actually, yes...but I won't give up the secret, they might get mad...;)ukit
- neue75_bold0
post-contemporary-neo-dada..
- -esqueneue75_bold
- haha! thats such wank-talkbaseline_shift
- johndiggity0
is this then just a trend? will this stuff look just as dated as, say, carson's raygun work in 10 years time?
- I reckon..neue75_bold
- trends never disappear, they just vapor out into a universe of hipsters, retrofans and nostalgians...freitag
- to be ultimately recycled againfreitag
- american fucking apparelfreitag
- but then where is this trend coming from? is a carson revival coming next?johndiggity
- coming from boredom.. especially in Meiré's case, he's said that numerous times..neue75_bold
- maybe ian anderson will resurrect tDR on the eve of a sheffield club revival?johndiggity
- hah, let's hope not... I don't think he was cut from the same ilk..neue75_bold
- neue75_bold0
just remember you're making your judgements purely based on a jpeg..
- don't they all on ffffoundfreitag
- JazX was dating one..neue75_bold
- the pixelfuckerfreitag
- mikotondria30
no no no, we all understand the concept of irony, and creating something that is deliberately 'bad', in that it is opposite to the accepted standards of excellence, but the above work IS NOT THAT.
It's not crap for crap's sake.
I did not miss the point, 'dog', but the above 'design's are not bad, or undesigned, deliberately, just to be, you know, super-ironic and post-modern, they are just null, not bad, not not-bad, or good. Please understand that we understand you when you say this.
You have to try a bit harder to be different, than just trying to ignore the rules and falling on your face.
- typist0
start from 2007, the new ugly trend, good read
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/…- yes, it was his redesign of 32c that made me really take an interest of this phenomenon.johndiggity
- it started well before that... New Wave, Brody, the Face, etc...neue75_bold