good design?
- Started
- Last post
- 32 Responses
- johndiggity
do you consider this good design? does good design have to be comfortable? or even pleasing to the eye? i have just noticed more and more of this type of work being produced by younger designers and am interested in what is influencing their process, or even if there is any influence at all.
i'm not sure if it's the resurgence in brutalism that the hipster movement seems to have engendered, or if it is the democratization of the design process and the tools used nowadays.
is this just a passing trend, or is this the future of graphic design?
- brandelec0
influence of bad design
- designbot0
Looks like Kanye West designed those
- detritus0
People get bored.
We need another Big War.
- BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD0
________ Love the first and the last
- ninjasavant0
It comes down to the fact that this generation has role models like Paris Hilton and Heidi/Spencer and all the reality show idiots. They're people who are famous for nothing. In recent studies with high school teachers it seems to be an epidemic that students are intent on not working at all but demanding all the benefits of hard work.
Thats what I see in these designs. They figure out how to put a gradient on type on a path, or they steal some "free" font from a blog and use the auto guides and call themselves designers. The thing is though that the people paying for this work wouldn't have paid the price for good design anyway so its not like we're losing clients. The clients that demand quality will get it, the ones that don't will have more options.
- mikotondria30
Thats terrible terrible work, I won't even say it's designed.
It's what happens when someone on the pta puts their hand up for designing the fundraiser and opens their copy of CorelDraw that came with their computer all those years ago. Note the absence of any information heirarchy, consistent style, or use of repetition, contrast, space. Note also that this work isnt deliberately breaking those rules and in no way engages the audience with any viewpoint whatsoever.
Kill that book with a polio-laced stick.- nods head in agreement, especially about the stick remark.shitehawke
- missing the point completelyBIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD
- BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD0
_________"Thats what I see in these designs. They figure out how to put a gradient on type on a path, or they steal some "free" font from a blog and use the auto guides and call themselves designers. "
You are so missing the point, this is all design aimed at designers. Its un-design its like a designer having their blog or portfolio "designed" in courier with web safe blue links.
Barterama was a place for people to swap t-shirts and zines and stuff for example.
I think its mostly a European phenomenon though so maybe not well understood over the pond
- BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD0
_________This thread reminds me of when you hear someones dad say modern art is "just a load of squares, doesn't even look like anything"
- yes yes... we fail to see the 'high art' aspect of it all. how sad for us.lambsy
- Countryman0
The top one may not be soo bad if the cover reflects some sort of low class apathetic theme used in the book. I have seen very similar designs used very well given the right context.
- ukit0
Yeah, this is sarcasm/ irony/ piss-taking/ post-modernism and not necessarily lack of talent (although it may be masking it)
- neue75_bold0
see a lot of things like this in Amsterdam, I dig some it, not all of it... I think it's just best to keep an open mind [not that I always do] but I like the spirit of messing about, having a laugh... it's not for me personally, but like to see it around...
there are huge differences between what many designers consider to be good and bad, especially from a geographical perspective.. There are vast differences between north american and european sensibilities... a lot of shit that gets highly regarded by many of the folk on here would garner little reaction by many studios in holland.. and I'm sure, vice-versa..
- dropdown0
If this type of shit is coming into style then there may be hope for me yet...
- typist0
start from 2007, the new ugly trend, good read
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/…- yes, it was his redesign of 32c that made me really take an interest of this phenomenon.johndiggity
- it started well before that... New Wave, Brody, the Face, etc...neue75_bold
- mikotondria30
no no no, we all understand the concept of irony, and creating something that is deliberately 'bad', in that it is opposite to the accepted standards of excellence, but the above work IS NOT THAT.
It's not crap for crap's sake.
I did not miss the point, 'dog', but the above 'design's are not bad, or undesigned, deliberately, just to be, you know, super-ironic and post-modern, they are just null, not bad, not not-bad, or good. Please understand that we understand you when you say this.
You have to try a bit harder to be different, than just trying to ignore the rules and falling on your face.
- neue75_bold0
just remember you're making your judgements purely based on a jpeg..
- don't they all on ffffoundfreitag
- JazX was dating one..neue75_bold
- the pixelfuckerfreitag
- johndiggity0
is this then just a trend? will this stuff look just as dated as, say, carson's raygun work in 10 years time?
- I reckon..neue75_bold
- trends never disappear, they just vapor out into a universe of hipsters, retrofans and nostalgians...freitag
- to be ultimately recycled againfreitag
- american fucking apparelfreitag
- but then where is this trend coming from? is a carson revival coming next?johndiggity
- coming from boredom.. especially in Meiré's case, he's said that numerous times..neue75_bold
- maybe ian anderson will resurrect tDR on the eve of a sheffield club revival?johndiggity
- hah, let's hope not... I don't think he was cut from the same ilk..neue75_bold
- neue75_bold0
post-contemporary-neo-dada..
- -esqueneue75_bold
- haha! thats such wank-talkbaseline_shift
- ukit0
It's a trend but like couture fashion. The pure versions created by the elite are some kind of comment on the disposable nature of digital culture. People call it the new trend and it gets filtered down into mass production...
A year later, some corporate designer in a cubicle creates an annual report...and stretches the types just a little, and chooses mildly offensive colors. The ugliness is still there, it's just been watered down.
- I still rather see this than another spinning, whirring website for nike or another lame poster by iso50..neue75_bold
- Yeah, I guess given those 3 options, it's not so bad...ukit
- i guess the difference is scott probably thinks his typography is actually good...neue75_bold
- at least good enough to sell..neue75_bold
- Who are these "elite" in which you speak of...is there some kind of secret handshake I should learn? :)designbot
- Actually, yes...but I won't give up the secret, they might get mad...;)ukit