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- ********
Maybe its just me but I noticed that most of us are money centric. I would be happy to pay someone for work but I tend to get half ass stuff back because I am not a "real" client.
I still do free work from time to time as a favor or just for fun.
What ever happen to doing stuff because it was cool? Those days are gone? Not to make money but just to play around and experiment.
(not related to work that I just assigned to a QBNer recently)
- ukit0
I have a couple side projects, but they are money making ventures for me. However, it still allows me to exercise my creativity.
But I agree that it is not like early days of the web anymore where you saw more work for its own sake.
- lvl_130
i guess the most obvious way to look at it would be:
as we get older, we begin to take on more responsibilities. these responsibilities either involve time or money (or both), leaving less time or will to do "cool, free stuff". more work=more money=less time=more problems.
- ********0
- ********0
- brandelec0
like my man puff say mo money mo problems
- ********0
The thing is that if it becomes successful or makes money, the person you hired to do some of the work wants a piece of it even though I paid them to do the work.
- it's not that i'm money centric, but the world i live in isversion3
- ********0
- ukit0
Sometimes I feel like even as a earn more money there are just less time and more problems.
- Nairn0
I've done one free site this year, and one stupidly cheap site this year.
The free one was infinitely more satisfying.
My new rule - either a proper fair rate, or free.
No "mates rates" bullshit for people who, because they're paying a little money, think they have the right to play the asshole client.
- babaganush0
' The thing is that if it becomes successful or makes money, the person you hired to do some of the work wants a piece of it even though I paid them to do the work.'
Depends if they agree that you paid for the work in perpetuity. If that isn't stipulated it can be a grey area as copyright still exists automatically once someone creates something and it can be argued that you just 'license it'. That's why multinational branding is large budget.
- Once you are paid to build it and they did not spec license, its not a license.********
- Unless you agree in contract that the 'work is for hire' it isn't yours eternally.babaganush
- Also depends what is 'created'babaganush
- Yah, I should draft contracts...********
- If you mean a web build there's probably not a lot of IP attachedbabaganush
- Interesting thought.********
- Once you are paid to build it and they did not spec license, its not a license.
- lvl_130
so it seems as if there is an agenda behind your thread then? not that i am trying to call you out or anything, but your tone seems to suggest so.
- ********0
No there is no agenda. I was just curious. I am always happy to do free work but I get crit for doing that.
- brains0
Hi Dinky.
- ********0
Hi brains
- lvl_130
really? people try to tell you not to do unpaid work that interests you? 2 words to that: fuck them.
- brains0
Free work, when it's there to experiment? For sure. Some of the most rewarding stuff doesn't pay nearly enough, or anything at all.
- ********0
Yes I get that all the time. They say that I am undermining the whole industry or future work.
- lvl_130
it's your life. live it how you want. the happier the better...no matter what anyone else thinks.
