worth 6,000 bucks?
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- instrmntl0
if they say yes to 6K, then its worth it.
- brandelec0
is your family friend in a ferrari or jaguar, switching four lanes with the top down, screaming out money ain't a thang?
- version30
make it rain!
- ukit0
I guess the Indians don't need our help when designers themselves are complaining that they charge too much!
- TheBlueOne0
So how much would you charge a non-family member to do the site in Flash / CSS/JQuery adaptable code? Including the shopping cart and blog bits? Just out of curiosity.
- Although I agree the design of the site is a fucking travesty,TheBlueOne
- version30
applepirate should be renamed to buttpirate and have his color put to #804000
- version30
how would you feel if you learned the client chose the template?
- baseline_shift0
This might actually be design murder at the hands of the client. Ya know, they pick the worst concept, and then make it worse through asinine request/revisions.
- blaw0
$6k for a site with CMS and ecommerce sounds reasonable.
If she wanted a better design she should have checked out a couple of portfolios. That's the joy of visual communication—you can see it.
Is it a purchased template? Her recommendation or the developer's? Part of the original agreement?
Side note: You ever look under the hood of one of those templates? It's like it was coded with a blender. Cheaper to start from scratch.
- TheBlueOne0
*begins to wonder if this thread didn't quote go the way applepirate had hoped
- "quite" not "quote". sigh.TheBlueOne
- it's buttpirate now remember?version3
- applepirate0
ha... so i didnt post for a bit b/c my router shit the bed.
so i get the whole "dont take money out of a firm's pocket" and the "whatever the client will pay is what its worth" AND the "lets all get rates up so we can charge more for bottom line jobs"
here is my issue. the site looks disgusting. and i am a designer that actually gives a fuck about making people/clients happy thats one of the main reasons i left the agency world and am now a totally broke freelancer.
the integration of blog/shopping cart is supposedly finished in the wed dev's eyes... i cant see how that is possible. they are acting like they are totally done with the site and they have just now given the client the first look at the template based implementation they have developed.
the client(jean) is not happy and the firm is claiming they are 95% finished with the site. they are developers that buy a handful of templates and plug content in... jean had no way of knowing that(or what that even meant she is a 62yr old ex PE teacher running her own business in education).
so am i taking a job away from someone? FUCK YES! with pleasure.. if the web continues to be proliferated with bullshit HTML templates like this i think its a shame and that design should be taken out of the "web designer" title these asshats toss around so casually.
- applepirate0
"side note: You ever look under the hood of one of those templates? It's like it was coded with a blender. Cheaper to start from scratch."
i totally agree blaw... templates are for people that dont call themselves designers/programmers.
if you are either one of those titles you would never beat your head against the wall editing some bullshit code someone else hacked together to make a quick buck
- OSFA0
Templates are for marketing "gurus" and "divas"
- BattleAxe0
show me the template
- version30
i smell pride, god or some other holier than thou said that was bad.
- itsmitch0
I think the problem here isn't the arrangement, it sounds like they both had an agreement up front and she just didn't ask enough questions or do any research before committing 6k to a project. She needed to communicate (legally, in writing) her exact requirements for the project (a brief) and ask lots of questions. She didn't do her part and now she's in shady territory.
- mikabast0
how did she found these guys? with google's "i'm feeling lucky" feature?
if not, she chose them for a reason, and saw their previous works. or she just signed the contract blindly?
- ArthurKade0
ArthurKade thinks this site is totally KADE STYLE.
KADE OUT
- Nairn0
So, they're all HTML files and therefore presumably none-CMS'd (unless there's some fancy server side generator, but I'm not really familiar with that kind of shit)? Certainly not worth $6k, awful, awful design aside.
- Good point about .HTML. I missed that.blaw
- php can hide in .html pages , but long shotBattleAxe
- has to be a .php page for the server to process it thoughversion3
- yeh,I always make my html pages run php..mikotondria3