European Elections 09
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- Corvo20
There's something wrong with the news. We weren't supposed to learn results right now.
- Corvo20
Projections for Portugal:
CDS: 7-9% (Right-Wing/Conservatives)
PSD: 29-33 % (Right-Wing/Liberal)
PS: 27-31% (Centre/Socialist)
BE: 11-13% (Left-Wing)
CDU: 9-10% (Left-Wing/Communist+Green)4% remnant shared with Extreme-Right and Extreme-Left parties.
Not voting: 60% <------------------ !
- lowimpakt0
it seems europe is swinging to the right.
- lowimpakt0
racists, fascists and homophobes are doing well tonight.
- islandbridge0
The swedish Pirate Party is in with 1 mandate (7%).
- lowimpakt0
Yorkshire and Humber in the UK just voted for a British National Party MEP.
fuuuucckkkk saakkke
the guy they just voted for has been a prominent campaigner in the National Front and has been involved in National Socialist politics all his life.
- ukit0
So I guess this is more a vote for nationalism and against the European Union than anything else?
- ernexbcn0
yeah pretty much everywhere the right won
- lowimpakt0
ukit - it's not that clear cut. In the UK there is a lot of anger at local issues and these get reflected in the results. The right wing media have also inflated a recent scandal regarding politicial expenses into something that is being used to attack the current government (even though it was an all party scandal)
when you look at the actual margins and numbers of votes in the context of the voting system you see a different picture.
there are odd things occuring in the UK e.g. in Wales the Tories topped the european vote and this is the first time Labour hasn't led the polls since 1922.
as for the BNP... voting a person who was involved in the national front and has been involved in fascist politics for decades is more worrying than euro-skepticism.
- ukit0
Yeah Labour in the UK is pretty much screwed it seems. Even worse than what's happened with Republicans in the U.S. Kind of a strange parallel universe in a way.
- gentleman0
oops didnt vote..
this is bullshit - in the states they make a whole bit hoopla about it.
here i had no idea this shit was even going on. can i still vote? do i have to register? where do i go?
this shit was probably was well designed as the BNP leaflet.
cunts
- Corvo20
I don't think this voting is against the European community idea in general, but it's certainly a severe note of reproach to the bureaucrats in Brussels and ruling parties who think they can pull off treaties and make decisions about countries without consulting anyone. It's also a redundant voting: people don't vote thinking about what's good for Europe; they vote thinking about what's going on in their country and usually EU votings are used to endorse or chastise the ruling parties in each country.
It would be much more interesting if people in Europe could vote directly for trends or policies. Then we would see if the entire thing has legs to go or not. As it is, it's just too byzantine.
- ********0
Falling turnout;
1979 - 62%
1984 - 59%
1989 - 58%
1994 - 57%
1999 - 50%
2004 - 45%
2009 - 43%Guess it'll probably take another war on the home front to improve upon this.