why do people watch preachers?
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- mrock
I just got into an argument with a roommate because he was watching a preacher on TV - Joel Osteen. I just bloated out and said "People who watch these things are loosers". I mean c'mon, I still don't understand why people watch or follow this crap...
- pango0
ya... i don't get it either...
but i find faith healing very entertaining tho. and the whole speaking in tongue thing. LOL
- Jnr_Madison0
They find it hard to think for themselves so live through others.
- BuddhaHat0
religion = crutch
people watching religious tv = truly fucking helpless
- airey0
fuck all this bullshit above.
people have every right to be religious and gain some kind of benefit from watching preachers wither online or off.
personally i'm not religious and i find the evangelists i've ever seen on tv to be 2nd hand car salesmen (ie: benny hinn / jimmy swaggart) but that's me not them.
people need an open mind. to listen to view expressed and see them for partial truths or bullshit. certainly anyone who's read anything about jonestown would be amazed like myself at the power he held over people even from his early days as a preacher/creator of peoples temple.
the problem i have is the immediate rally call of arms against them. surely you can see the irony in a bunch of people agreeing to broad truths as ridiculous - on both sides. here we're against, there they're for, on and on.
also, faith healers and other bullshit munchers are not all preachers in the same way that 400kg kkk inbred fucks are not all middle americans.
if you're not into it then allow those that are to be in the same way that you would expect the right to not have to believe or agree.
- I think you are having an existential moment, 2 arguments laid...NONEIS
- neither cancel the other out though. i believe in both. not everything needs to have 'sides'airey
- it's the ideal that there's clear answers to everything that's put the world in the shitter in many cases.airey
- i could, of course, be wrong.airey
- i agree. You can dislike something for yourself, but still recognize other's need for itlocustsloth
- mrock0
but why are so attached? My roommate was glued. And he said that he likes these things and it gives him positive energy. C'mon man!!! WTF!!!
- and a good cd / movie / book does to me. that's his thing. granted, it's crap but feel sorrow for him.airey
- I like my roommate but I've lost respect for him somewhere in our arguments. There's other things in life that have postive feedback. Not this crap.mrock
- totally agree but it's better than him hitting heroin and steeling your stuff. been there.airey
- still, when he starts trying to sell you noway products kick him to the curb. god can sort him out then.airey
- airey0
and the whole religion is a crutch thing is hilarious. what isn't a crutch? try fashion, that's a crutch.
the best yet are the hardcore atheists who push so hard and shout so loud as to have almost made the belief that there is no god a god in itself. cracks me up. the forced attack at the favourite 'crutch' has in fact become the new 'crutch'. that there is fucking hilarious to me.
- mrock0
So am I just as bad for going to church on Sunday. I have my reasons for going but I don't preach it.
- mrock0
LOL! Nioce airey. \m/
- BuddhaHat0
They do have the right to watch it, and believe whatever they want. I have the right to call them deluded souls using their belief in God as a crutch to support their entire existence.
I suppose you could call fashion a crutch. The worshippers attend shopping centres across the world, no matter what day it is, and pay tribute to their lord via paper or plastic. Some people even sit down and watch Fashion TV, to reaffirm their faith.
I don't mind the atheists shouting loud. It might make up for the multiple millenia of bullshit people have endured at the hands of 'God', and those who have preached 'his words'. And the atheists haven't created a god out of there being no god as you suggest airey, they substitute 'god' with logic, scientifically proven evidence, and reasoning.
But like you say, he can watch whatever he likes.
- mrock0
my roommates words to me, was that he likes to watch these things and it makes him feel better. That sometimes he needs to follow something as a guide. or just as you said it BuddhaHat "substituting a god with 'logic". Well, if it really comes down to it, do individuals start loosing touch with reality where you need to start watching that crap? Better yet, is there a statistic or something that says people who watch this kind of stuff are mostly bi-polar and walking time bomb? I hate to, but now I'm starting categorize people who do watch this stuff because maybe he/she maybe hinting deeply at something. Just in the same way that you wouldn't want to have your 5 year old kid watching violent shows.
- airey0
i'd like to raise a point here i thought of a while back. personally i don't understand the division between science and religion. i think that if you believe in god then you must believe that he/she/it created everything and science is the way we describe how it all works.
so in science there's theoretical science. science based solely on theory based around both proven and supposed truths with a dash of pepper. string theory is probably one of the more popular theory's around at the moment (i tried to prove it myself with 7 balls of yarn and had to wait until the other half came home so i could get out of the chaos).
what's god if not theoretical science?
i have to add the caveat that i'm agnostic. call it fence sitting if you will but i live by the idea that i don't have a fucking clue and probably won't find out. i also believe that if there was an all encompassing divinity that actually gave a shite i wouldn't need to be given a brochure and buy a tshirt to prove it meaning that all religious businesses are irrelevant to me. i also see a big difference between the business of religion and people's personal beliefs. but who gives a fuckery what i think.
just asking a question for people to have a crack at!
- simple difference really, in science you ask questions, with faith you dont.robotron3k
- NONEIS0
Deep breathing helps.
- pango0
I'm was born in a duddhism family, although we don't talk about religious stuffs at all. my parents never tried to preach me or anything. religion is more like the thing you keep it to your self. and i'm allow to believe anything i choose to so i don't believe in anything now. more like i don't care about religion of any kind. but my sister on the other hand just got converted into being a christian through her friends 2 years ago. seriously! they are one of the weirdest christian group. they are just like any other christian, believes in jesus and bible, but they go to church 12am or 4am in the fuking morning. who the hell does that?!!! my christian friends thinks its weird too.
if i have kids. they are allow to believe anything they want as long as they don't drag me to the church or going to the same church with their aunt.
i think i'm a bit off topic here. so yes. believe whatever you want to believe. mind your own business unless they are going to the messed up church.
- MrT0
TV evangelists are to religious belief what Macca's is to fine dining.
I've no problem with personal beliefs, but when organised religions bleat out their ridiculous ideas about women/abortions/other religions etc etc ETC ETC, they deserve all they get.
- tomkat0
- yeah, this kinda shite is just off the hook. pedo ring for sure.airey
- thats some aweome db there, love it :)..fucking filthy !mikotondria3
- white boys definitely can't dance if this is anything to go by. :)Amicus
- TheBlueOne0
I mean, why not just twitter God, right? Or friend him on Facebook... I mean, we're in the 21st century people. Television? Pfft....