why do people watch preachers?
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- braaad0
OP maybe you should listen more next time you go to your church:
"Judge not, that you be not judged."For all you hyper-sensitive Atheists out there another way to say this would be:
"Mind your own fucking business."
- kgvs720
I don't love you Robert Tilton. LOL
- BrandNewly0
On a mission from God.
- ukit0
- heavyt0
Pastor Osteen is a good dude. Some people give him a hard time because he is too positive, which i think is a little strange.
I have had the opportunity to read one of his books, and found it to be full of useful information.
It is true that he doesnt harp on the scriptures, although he does speak of them and from them every week. I think he is really trying to attract people to the church by showing them that God wants them to do well by doing good.
For those like me that may have a catholic background, you can see how refreshing this is to not always be told how bad you are, and have so many protocols on how to do this or that. The new generation of evangelical Christians is more about living in a positive way and helping others, than to scare people into religion.
The philosophy is really to show others you are a good person, you truly have compassion and want to help others in an altruistic way, and by doing that, people will see that having a relationship with Christ can make you a better, happier person.
Like many other born-again Christians, I understand there are a lot of people that dont have a relationship with the Lord, or want one at this point, and I dont think they are bad people because of it. I would just let them know I am available to talk if they are ever interested in learning more about Christianity.
I think that pastor Osteen in particular is taking advantage of technology (TV) to reach out to those people that might not otherwise be exposed to Christianity. People that may be interested, but dont have any friends or family to ask about it, or know of what church to go to, or are otherwise not comfortable in using other means to test the waters.
Flipping on the TV is a passive way to check it out, and help decide if it is something to look further into or not. Just like any other TV show, if it doesnt interest you at all, dont want it.
- Claymantis0
We are all doomed to live in traditional ideas, that wont progress us to new consciousness. Just keep believe in the old and never look forward. Right on humans.
- philipdrumman0
Jonestown and christianity should not be not strung together like the bakers and watchman nee. Im with you on your concern how much your friend likes televangelist as much as i hate music groupies with bad taste (30 year olds that love hanna montana). joel olsteen is not on the same parallel as jim jones but has a purpose of encouragement, however groupie overendulgence is like old folks watching jeopordy to pass the death away
- Scotch_Roman0
I think many televangelists are full of varying degrees of BS. Joel Osteen preaches a false gospel of health, wealth, and prosperity that people lap up simply because it feels good. The man does not use a single line of Scripture in most of his sermons. It's not really much more than his own personal philosophical/self-help forum.
The true gospel is not so much about improving ones health and wealth in this life, but rather in the next life, in eternity. Of course, Jesus came to heal the sick, the blind, to comfort the downtrodden and minister to the outcast; but his ultimate message was one of eternal life. This world is passing away. Joel Osteen settles for a temporal band-aid sort of gospel. In a word, it's heresy.
Changing gears: airey, I think you're on to something. Theoretical science, i.e. scientific "theories" that are based largely on conjecture, have more in common with philosophy and faith than with science. Robotron is wrong about the supposed line in the sand between religious faith and evolutionary science. Faith most definitely should be questioned and tested in order for it to grow.
- If Joel is really Christian, and Christian is to be like-Christ, How often did Christ or Paul quote scripture? Just sayin....philipdrumman
- Actually, Christ and Paul both quoted scripture prolifically. Read the gospels for a start.Scotch_Roman
- Then read all of Paul's letters. Copious Old Testament references (the only Bible then available)Scotch_Roman
- Scotch not getting into debate but how were parables quoting other scripture certainly not on daily accountphilipdrumman
- point im trying to make is refs are in the letters but how is the ration of letters in retrospect to years of witness by either Paul or Christ, parables to ppl vs Paul in court in Rome, etcphilipdrumman
- or Christ, parables to ppl vs Paul in court in Rome, etc.philipdrumman
- Mostly it was about witness and passion not down yer throat scripture quantity...philipdrumman
- BuddhaHat0
janne's comments instantly reminded me of the old SouthPark episode It's All About The Mormons, where all the kids except stan ostracise the mormon kid. Eventually Stan succumbs and stops hanging out with him as well. At the bus stop, the kid comes up to him and says:
"All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls."
- non0
In response to the video above.
- janne760
mrock:
you need to learn to accept other people's beliefs and personal convictions. calling them "bullshit" (etc.) makes you look incredibly immature and otherwise implies you think your life's choices are superior to them.
i'd rather be his friend if he has an open mind and respect other people's choices in life than to be linked to someone like you, judgemental that you are.
foolish, i am sorry to say so.
- don't hate. I just think people ikea Joel make foolish money off of people who are vunerable and lack a sense of confidence in themselvesmrock
- creez0
"those who do not remenber the past are condemned to repeat it"
- creez0
- jonestown is quite an amazing/disturbing story. lots of occult meaning in itGeorgesII
- what a cuntmikotondria3
- his final speech is also recorded,no one knows precisely waht happened, the CIA was sent over there to knock him down..creez
- That story on history channel was nuts -amazing what selffish ambition and human influence can accomplish : (philipdrumman
- TheBlueOne0
I mean, why not just twitter God, right? Or friend him on Facebook... I mean, we're in the 21st century people. Television? Pfft....
- tomkat0
- yeah, this kinda shite is just off the hook. pedo ring for sure.airey
- thats some aweome db there, love it :)..fucking filthy !mikotondria3
- white boys definitely can't dance if this is anything to go by. :)Amicus