The Salary Question
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- Gucci
When in an interview, what is your strategy for getting the potential employer to divulge their range and/or high water mark?
- baseline_shift0
Dodge the 'desired salary' question. Try to get them to make you an offer.
- not just salary. dance around all questions. keep em guessin'monNom
- epikore0
Put on a poker face and show your tits
- Horp0
I wouldn't be wasting my time in an interview to begin with if I wasn't already sure that the salary range was acceptable. What' the point of putting yourself and them through the inconvenience only to discover its not enough money?
I would make sure of that crucial piece of data before even opening my diary ffs.
- lvl_130
what baseline said. or if you are currently employed, you can give them a range around that and what it would take to get you to jump ship (if that is indeed what you are doing).
generally i pass it off as "hmm, let me think about that. weigh my options, and get back to you in a couple days. or you could always shoot me a range of what you were thinking as well."
but with the state of the economy i'm not sure any of that will work that great.
- nope. not jumping ship. starting from scratch, sadly.Gucci
- with this economic state, they are gonna try and lowball anyway. better to make the second move than the first in this kind of bargaining situationbaseline_shift
- though I do like your pass off and shoot back strategy.Gucci
- kind of bargainingbaseline_shift
- zarkonite0
"I have a bomb, I request $20mil in unmarked bills to be delivered at this address in 1 hour."
- Horp0
You people are fucking crazy! Don't you knwo that all of these ... erm... 'techniques' you are sharing are so hackneyed and played that it makes you all look like Napolean Dynamite when you drop them from the hip?
Be assertive about your expectations. You are entitled to a salary. If you are not good for them your salary expectations wont matter anyway. If you are right for them, then you have a greater value.
Fuck, do you all take your portfolios along in big envelopes with TOP SECRET printed across the front?
- yes we do********
- your last argument is moot. Of course you are entitled to a salary. But if you go in asking for more than you are worth, it could hurt you.baseline_shift
- could hurt you.baseline_shift
- Oh, okay.
Say, where do you get those, just out of interest?Horp - Baseline: True, but that just mean you need to have a good sense of your worth and the market rate, not justHorp
- throwing out fantasy figures.Horp
- Its true. Thats why i find you get a little more leverage if you ask them to name the first number.baseline_shift
- hey tim, fuck you!
;D
it's about technique and playin' the game.lvl_13
- yes we do
- ********0
i bill out my freelance rate for interviews. time is money, my friends.
- FUCK! I've got some serious back-invoicing to do.zarkonite
- ********0
"Hello my name is Horp, I just want to clear the air before I interview with your firm and show my portfolio. How much are you willing to pay me? I am entitled to salary and good one, so if we are in the same ball park, I will be happy to share with you my award-winning portfolio with you."
- give me lots of moniesepikore
- Just how much would you consider yourself worth...Mr...Horp is it?zenmasterfoo
- twokids0
not_ghey is right. never bring up money until after they want you for the job.
- monospaced0
Ummm, I usually talk about money before I interview also. Horp isn't that off-base with his comments.
- Gucci0
In Horp's defence, his portfolio is ridonkulous, so he can probably make his own hours and set his own pay. Joes like this guy right here grind shit out.
great stuff, horp.
- harlequino0
Frankly, it's the interviewer who should bring the subject up as part of details of the job. Hopefully at that point, they would have already seen your salary/rate history, and no one's wasting anyone's time. But if they don't, it's perfectly reasonable at the end of the interview to ask if they have any salary range in mind for this job. It's not that hard to do so in a pleasant professional way.
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let the recruiter talk moneymonospaced - agreed. it's their job to tell you. they shouldn't be sneaky about it.********
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- ********0
I like Horp's work as well, but that fact remains that he is self-employed, and giving poor advice to a junior designer with not a lot of experience in the interview process.
- tkmeister0
I always ask the highest I want to get, usually 20% more than what I get with a current job. I also try to have more than one offer if I am really desperate to make more money. If they can't do it but I am interested in the job, I'd ask for other kinds of compensation.
- ********0
salary comes up on the second date
- ********0
i once went in for an interview (this was right after college). i prepared my shit, got all dressed up, drove the 40 miles, did the interview. and at the end, they brought up little "tid bit" about the money...
10 bucks an hour.
- did you except, and are you still there?********
- He runs the joint now. They bumped him up 5 bucks an hour. :Dharlequino
- do you get all the free frozen yogurt you can eat?********
- i drew the nike logo on their carpet with my piss and left.********
- hahahahahalvl_13
- did you except, and are you still there?