Can graphic design ever
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transcend it's commercial roots and become art? Do you have any examples of work that you feel has managed this?
- moamoa0
noope...thats not possible
- ukit0
NO FUCKING WAY
- Juddly0
Nah
- ********0
it depends on who you ask, and what their definitions are, so it's almost immaterial what the answer is
- ETM0
The word 'design' implies a function. Design serves (or should) a purpose. If you want to create art than do so, for no motivation or purpose than your own creative outlet or satisfaction. To me, that's the primary difference.
Although I think design can encompass art, I don't think art encompasses design so much.
- Corvo20
I don't think so.
- ********0
fucking gimps
- NotByHand0
How many threads can there possibly be started on this topic?
- doesnotexist0
hugo & marie I think reach this level.
- Corvo20
Presently, I think design, as a craft, is more interesting than Art. Trouble is designers want to be artists, which is stupid. Design is a craft, not a philosophy.
Art, these days, is all about "concepts". But concepts belong to Text. Why do a picture to "say something" if you have words to do it?
Drawing is all there is to art. And drawing is not about text.
If you have something to say, do a text.
- art isn't always concept, maybe during the conceptual art phase, but I think this is mostly false.doesnotexist
- "art isn't always concept"... you mean the part where it's designed or drawn?Corvo2
- ********0
This is my working definition of art;
'Art' is the product of a subjective exploration of our existence; whereas 'science' is the product produced, from the pursuit of, an objective exploration of our existence.
In each case, I think that 'exploration' needs to be the primary purpose.
- of course, true objectivity is very difficult - if not impossible********
- of course, true objectivity is very difficult - if not impossible
- Corvo20
So to you, lukusW, Art is radically opposed to science? To me too.
- I think that each values different things... personal experience vs. collective experience..********
- Yeah, but science is just science. Facts. So Art must dwell on totally different subjects?Corvo2
- I think that the two areas often try to answer the same questions though..********
- I think that each values different things... personal experience vs. collective experience..
- tank020
Graphic design is a craft...
- it's more than thatribit
- No its not, i am proud to a cfraftsman...the link to art comes out of insecurity & identity crisis.tank02
- witch craftandrewwwahlin
- Corvo20
What I'm asking is, why does everybody needs to justify the liking of a picture with words? Is it fair to the picture? Do you have words enough for the conjunction of lines and colours? Why are there pictures if all we want is to reason them with text?
- Language is closely aligned to thought .. we wan to think about them, so we need to formulate the words.********
- That doesn't explain "pictures", does it? Why do we need them, that is.Corvo2
- pictures work on a level which isn't premeditated .. they provide us with a richer more visceral experience********
- hello you surrealist :)Corvo2
- Language is closely aligned to thought .. we wan to think about them, so we need to formulate the words.
- Corvo20
My father came to visit me the other day and asked:
"Why aren't you finishing your paintings?", he said.
"Because I don't like how people look into paintings", I replied.
"Artists shouldn't pose those questions", he said
"Then, I guess, I'm not an artist", I said.- your father might have been trying to say that art shouldn't be made for an audience - or to cater for that audience's tastes.. in the same way that you can't usually have an adventure, knowing where you'll end up********
- tastes.. in the same way that you can't usually have an adventure, knowing where you'll end up********
- showing something of yourself, is unavoidable - and necessary, because you're the vehicle travelling - but you have to learn not to care what other people think, and to be strong enough to withstand their probing********
- learn not to care what other people think, and to be strong enough to withstand their probing********
- heh. you said probing.iCanHazQBN
- your father might have been trying to say that art shouldn't be made for an audience - or to cater for that audience's tastes.. in the same way that you can't usually have an adventure, knowing where you'll end up
- ribit0
you guys worry too much about the 'commercial' aspect making graphic design (or any design) less 'worthy'... Fine art has sometimes been known to involve 'clients' and quite a lot of $$$ to you know.
