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- liveslow0
I'd love to know what you guys would expect the US to do if everyday rockets were sent flying into the US from Mexico or Canada. What if they blew up your house, or killed a friend or family member? I'm sure you wouldn't want the US to retaliate right?
I want you to look at that map above and see just exactly how small Israel is in the middle east. And you're really going to try to say that Israel is trying to steal land? You're trying to tell me there is no room in Syria, Jodan, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, etc for the arab peoples of palestine who have descent from those countries anyway?
Well, Israel isn't even asking for that.Look at the land taken in the Six Day war and which Israel GAVE back afterwards. They are not trying to take land.
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zmXXUOs27lI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zmXXUOs27lI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>Now watch that video. Those are terrorists firing rockets from A SCHOOL. Those guys are the war criminals. If they choose to fire rockets from a school where there are children, THEY are the cowards and THEY are the criminals. Israel records this, does pinpoint bombs when they KNOW the terrorists are there. It is absolutely 100% the terrorists fault civilians get killed.
Every time you read an article about civilians getting killed by Israeli strikes notice how there are also militants killed.
I'm not israeli, or jewish.
You only have to try a little bit to see whats really going on here, and the ignorance and one sided coverage on this subject that is so wide spread makes me sick.- My youtube didn't work but the link is http://www.youtube.c…liveslow
- everyday? and you have little clue of exactly the details of the situation...how would you feel if you were stuck in a walled off ghetto being bombed by an empiral backed military?KwesiJ
- ...in a walled off ghetto being bombed by an empiral backed military?KwesiJ
- get out your home so they can bulldoze it...now go live in a reffugee camp that is also under attack.KwesiJ
- liveslow... i agree. +1THA
- to be fair, america would have to be occupying tijuana first.DrBombay
- people love to pull the America card these daysPoint5
- no its reality. liveslow is 100% right.dconstrukt
- lowimpakt0
why are hamas rockets terrorism and israeli rockets necessity?
the partitioning of fault is pure propaganda.
- you're a dumbass. hamas is a terrorist group, israel is a country. yeah thats a big differencedconstrukt
- lowimpakt0
imagine what the situation would be like these days if the Zionist congress decided to take the British offer of land in Uganda instead of Palestine....
- kelpie0
my last on this, I'm tired of it:
I'd love to know what you guys would expect the US to do if everyday rockets were sent flying into the US from Mexico or Canada. What if they blew up your house, or killed a friend or family member? I'm sure you wouldn't want the US to retaliate right?
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I'd love to know what you would do if your tiny home country were being blockaded out of existence and all through your life growing up your larger neighbours had been bombing you, shooting people all around you and reducing your cities to a rubble from which there is no hope of building progress or prosperity? I'm sure you would be cool with that right?
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You're trying to tell me there is no room in Syria, Jodan, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, etc for the arab peoples of palestine who have descent from those countries anyway?
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So its "fuck off to another country and leave us be", then? I reckon you'd be pretty pissed simply being forcibly asked to move to the next state, let alone go and find a new home in a new country.
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If they choose to fire rockets from a school where there are children, THEY are the cowards and THEY are the criminals.
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Where is this disconnect coming from in some people? regardless of whether a rocket came from a school yard, there is no excuse for bombing schools containing children. When your retaliatory attacks are killing a massively disproportionate amount of innocent bystanders it is time to rethink your strategy. Period.
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You only have to try a little bit to see whats really going on here, and the ignorance and one sided coverage on this subject that is so wide spread makes me sick.
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I completely agree, and I am of the opposite opinion to you, despite years of trying to find a way to balance the two sides. These days I'm afraid it all comes down to the amazingly and disgracefully lopsided body count, the 1st world / 3rd world mismatch between the two peoples (due in no small part to the policies of the Israeli government), and the continual failure of Israel to do its bit regarding settlements, blockades etc etc for me.
Their policy is what makes people appalled at them, not some naive lefty love of the underdog.
- you just dont get it do you?erikjonsson
- no you don't.... kelpie is right.dconstrukt
- Khurram0
^ exactly. The whole "trying to find balance" thing has been so frustrating over the yeras. Like trying to find the balance between a rapist and a rape victim. Gotta see all sides!!
Anyway - no sign of ceasefire. Today Red Cross, after being held back for four days, found a bombed out house reduced to rubble with four weak and enfeebled children cowering over the body of their dead mother. They'd been like that for days.
wow.
- Khurram0
"One medical team found 12 bodies in a shelled house, and alongside them four very young children, too weak to stand, waiting by their dead mothers, the ICRC said.
Aid workers had been denied access to the site for days, it added. "
- bliznutty0
US Senate supports Israel's Gaza incursion
- well they do invest $2 billion a year in military aid in israel. they don't give that for nothing.lowimpakt
- to take care of terrorists... you know plane hijacking, car bombs, kidnapping people...dconstrukt
- KwesiJ0
for the little mexico analogy to add up in the least you'd have to reduce mexico's land area by about 95% replaced by us controlled land and kill/imprison hundreds of thousands of them aswell
- its the terrists fault to begin with right?KwesiJ
- same goes for the canada analogyKwesiJ
- so you['re condoning terrorism? are you fucking for real?dconstrukt
- BattleAxe0
GAWDDAMIT!
"The U.S. Senate voiced strong support on Thursday for Israel's battle against Hamas militants in Gaza, while urging a ceasefire that would prevent Hamas from launching any more rockets into Israel."so when Russia defended itself from Georgia , we said it was an overeaction , but Isreals reactions is just right?
"Noting that Israel was bent on halting Hamas rocket fire into its southern towns, Reid said: "I ask any of my colleagues to imagine that happening here in the United States. Rockets and mortars coming from Toronto in Canada, into Buffalo New York. How would we as a country react?""
WTF! nobody talks no more or what?
- Reid your from Nevada , you dont speak for the country assholeBattleAxe
- is what i would say if I saw ReidBattleAxe
- I'm from NV and I don't really care for Reid much either, but he's been in the game for decades now.Point5
- love Nevada , lived in Vegas a good chunk growing up! and ya Reid is Dino PoliBattleAxe
- lowimpakt0
UN aid agencies have pulled out of gaza because the IDF are killing their drivers.
- bliznutty0
So if the U.N. has the power to create countries? Where is there power when that created country turns on the U.N?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/me…
- The U.N. created a MONSTERbliznutty
- yep. guess who can veto the UN's ass off? A few, amongst them the US of A.. same now in UN.. USA still backing Israeljanne76
- Map 1 – lie
There was no state of Palestine but a British mandate.laurus - Before that, it was part of Syria Palestine region of the ottoman empirelaurus
- 1947 – UN plan – Israel accepted – Palestinian decided to join 7 Arab countries and try annihilate Israel.laurus
- 1949 – 1967 Still no Palestine. Why? the territories were under Egyptian and Jordanian rule.laurus
- You can check these facts in any encyclopedia. This is a propaganda fake depiction.laurus
- i like your use of words of "lie" and "facts" religious people is the plague of the 21st centuryerikjonsson
- moamoa0
the post from liveslow made me LOL
http://www.qbn.com/topics/577719…I want you to look at that map above and see just exactly how small Israel is in the middle east. And you're really going to try to say that Israel is trying to steal land? You're trying to tell me there is no room in Syria, Jodan, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, etc for the arab peoples of palestine who have descent from those countries anyway?
Well, Israel isn't even asking for that.HAHHAHHAHHAHAH
I'd love to know what you guys would expect the US to do if everyday rockets were sent flying into the US from Mexico or Canada. What if they blew up your house, or killed a friend or family member? I'm sure you wouldn't want the US to retaliate right?
HAHAHHAHHAH
- haha same reaction here. goofbrandelec
- HIGH FIVE!!!moamoa
- omg liveslow is retardedbliznutty
- you forgot the quotes, dummie! ;) i almosrt thought you wrote that.. i do not often click links hahajanne76
- I see.. fck I am really an idiot!moamoa
- thanks for contributing to the conversation. really good insight!liveslow
- Pixter0
- lovely handwriting btwPixter
- Ok so it's ok to have Arab states, but not a Jewish one.laurus
- What's the only country in the middle east that Arabs can freely vote in? Israel.laurus
- House demolition of terrorist – justified or not, are not ethnic cleansing.laurus
- Ask how minorities are treated in Arab countries.laurus
- 600 people, 80% of which were armed is no Genocide. US kills more than that on a daily basis in Iraq. Darfour doesn't seem to bother you either.laurus
- more like 20% armed? you really need to check your figures..janne76
- ********0
If i lobbed bombs at your house, you would want to kick my ass too
- janne760
truth is, the Palestinians are to the Middle-East what the Roma's are to Europe. They do not seem (in the eyes of neighbours) to belong anywhere. nobody wants them. egypt doesn't want them, saudi-arabia doesn't want them. even Iran isn't exactly standing there with open arms..unless ofcourse, they want to score politically, then the Palestinians are their friends. And as for Iran, they just want to (ab)use the Palestinian anger to have rockets launched at Israel. That is why Iran delivers. Not because they really pity so much with the lives of the Palestinians.
The Palestinians are to neighbouring countries just a political playcard.
If Iran would have really cared about Palestinians they could do a million better things..
- ukit0
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/…
The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush's doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.
- ********0
"eyewitnesses have told the UN that about 30 Palestinians died earlier this week as Israeli forces shelled a house into which Israeli soldiers had previously moved about 100 people, half of them children."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…
That's beginning to look a little like genocide.
- its been genocide since the butcher of hebron moved in there the first timeerikjonsson
- lowimpakt0
is the calling for the obliteration of a governmental project the same as the actual obliteration of people?
- lowimpakt0
the normally very conservativce red cross are saying that Israel are breaking international humanitarian law.
