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- jimzyk0
a friend of mine went out of business he was owed 70k from a client who didnt pay, never payed. my mate went out of business. had to remortgage his house to get things right.
there are lots of cunts out there - keep them on a leash, don't let them owe you too much.
- Jimbo820
I know a few people who have had companies who owe them money, go bankrupt and then start trading a few months later under another name. If only there was some way of distinguishing them from the viable ones.
So do I leave it a month, until the payment deadline? Or do I do anything now? Like timeline events etc?
- I've a friend who had that shifty shit happen to himbabaganush
- jimzyk0
it's a tough call jimbo, i would run out this last month and take some serious action if there is still no check or really great (dog ate my homework) kind of excuse....
best of luck with it.
- chossy0
How much work have you got from them in the past do you rely on them at all for work if not and if you have not really had much work from them fuck them go straight to court only contact them through a lawyer. No point worrying about it anymore contact a lawyer you will get your money.
- Jimbo820
It was a branding job, logo, stationery and holding page. Wasn't expecting much more than that, so I didn't see it as something that was going to tick on, more of a one off job.
Right, I'll stop whining and get on with it, I'll leave it for a month and then go through the courts if it's not sorted. Bish bash bosh
- caput580
i live in a place where getting paid is a nightmare. i have one simple solution. when the "grace" period is over i just show up at the place and start packing their equipment, computers, etc. up to the amount owed. usually after i disconnect the second or third cable (go for the network or internet access first) the money suddenly appears on the table. i know it sounds crazy, but this is the only way i found to be effective 100%.
- forgot to add: do it in a calm / buddhist way, with a smile. no violence. then everybody gets really confused.caput58
- formed0
For the future - always get at least 50% at start, maybe more in today's economy. I've only had one or two problems over the years collecting.
End of the day, if she is having trouble you are just a headache.
I am owed a lot by client's now, but I realize they are on the verge of bankruptcy. I'll be patient and persistant - rather get the money in chunks or discuss other possibilities.
If a client goes into bankruptcy, you'll have just wasted the time in court.
- scribbler0
If it were me and I've been in a similar situation I would send a cease and desist letter. Basically, cease and desist using my logo/stationery/etc because you have no legal right to use it because you haven't paid for the license (ie your invoice)
I've got a copy of the letter that I used which was drawn up by a lawyer. Quite happy to email it to you if you like.
- babaganush0
I have some small print on my invoices that states something like;
Rights reserved to charge interest at base rate on delayed payment without prior agreed mitigating circumstances.Essentially just a warning that although things are platonic, you will do what you can to retrieve your money and be paid in a professional manner...I've had all the above before in terms of months and months of delays, companies out of business etc.
- Good small print, at least everythings in the open from day one thenJimbo82
- cls0
Let some one else deal with it.
You no longer have to worry about it, probably costs you a fee to the third party. But you can spend your energy on something else.
Just try to see it as a clear fact without letting your emotions take over, emotions are no good in these cases. But i allways had problems with them in cases like thes so i decided to let someone else handle these cases. It's a blessing
- Jimbo820
Thanks for all the advice everyone, I've got plenty to take onboard here, all good stuff.
cheers
- Jimbo820
Update...
Under a week to go before the deadline passes for payment, not heard anything or seen any money enter my account from her direction. I'm getting a little nervous that the deadline is going to pass and I'm going to have to take it to court.
Should I email her and say something? If so... What?!? Maybe say that if the deadline is not met, we will place a holding page up on her site saying it is down due to non payment?
- hiatus0
check out Prepaid Legal :)
- marchelo0
This one guy played this game with me, I learned from it. The most I've waited for payment is about 2 months, from corporations/loyal customers. This lady is Royally screwing you over... the fact that she makes it sound likes shes going out of her way is completely asinine. You should sue this bitch for defamation of character depending on how much she's talking about you. Take down the mainpage and make it blank/take down the entire site. For now on definitely add a fee for having to wait and include a must be paid in full within X days so you at least have something to hold them to.
- craighooper0
Deposit, always. Either 50/50, or 33/33/33 (.3).
Unless you have a solid working relationship w/ a client, and the mutual trust is there, then a-l-w-a-y-s get a deposit. It's very simple.
To bad it's print work, if it was web-based, you'd simply pull it. Once you do something along those lines, it sends a very, very clear message.
Work a deposit policy into your workflow. Make it very clear that this is company policy—because you are a company.
She is fucking you over, plain-and-simple. Don't stand for it, politely demand your funds. If she ignores, refuses, or continues to play the game she has been playing—take her to court. Don't listen to the other QBN'ers: take her to court. What are you worried about? You sure as hell ain't doing work for her firm again I hope...
- Jimbo820
Definitely going to add something into my quotes from now on that state payment period, and on large jobs a percentage of the fee upfront.
But as of now, do I send her an email reminding her the deadline is coming up. I shouldn't have to but with previous experience with this client, I'm worried she might try and wriggle out of it again.
Either way, I'm learning a valuable lesson here.
- Jimbo820
*bump*
Deadline has been and gone, I've been emailing since and not getting much luck, promises of payment that never materialise, so I sent an email telling them I'm taking them to court.
She replied saying that she would no longer be replying to my correspondence as I was rude and insinuated she was a liar. She can't just back out now!!!!!
So I'm taking them to court, given them one last deadline of next wednesday and if that passes then they'll be receiving the papers. Sent them a recorded delivery letter with it all in writing.
Rang the printers who printed the b.cards and they said they were paid for upfront but when they wanted the letterheads done they were given a cheque that bounced. They had since been chasing for a small payment with no luck so had written it off.
All in all, it's not going well.
- I've got my fingers crossed for you mate, I do hope it all works out, even if that does mean taking the lying bitch to court :-)Not_Just_Another
- JazX0
I don't have the time to read through this, but CONTRACT, CONTRACT, CONTRACT. If they don't pay according to the agreement, terms of payment, what have you, contact your LAWYER, LAWYER, LAWYER.
- ethanfink0
Maybe this is a bad site but get a collection agency after her.
They will follow up and hound her until she pays. You will have to pay a commision to this agency for working for you but at least you don't have to do the hounding...
Then I would say next step is to take her to court... but if you have already told her that you will do that, then you need to continue with your word...
Best of luck...
- babaganush0
Fucking cowboys. Good luck mate.