Religulous Movie
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- GeorgesII0
yep, it does look funny, but doesn't erase the fact that bill maher is an unfunny creep that take his role in life way to seriously,
making fun of people while not listenning to their point nor develloping a real understanding of what you discuss makes you no better than good ol' bill ho- I still watch the movie, but i know i'll cringe all the way through itGeorgesII
- Jnr_Madison0
richard dawkins has done it already.
- ukit0
That's not really true, if you watch Maher's show on HBO (and Politically Correct back in the day), it's one of the few places where you can hear people talk openly and honestly about news and politics. He doesn't hold back on his opinions but he almost always has conservatives and people with different points of view on.
- JG_LB0
i saw it last night. throughout the entire film the crowd was laughing applauding and lovin' it. including me btw. good shit. i'll pay the 9.50 to see this instead of lame movies with agendas like that fake michael moore flick.
- grunttt0
just saw it. it was good. it was funny. doesn't exactly get "deep" but i didn't expect it to. bill mahr is a bit of a prick, but i agree with a lot of what he says.
- marychain0
An American Carol is at 44% at RT
pass.....it looked like a pile
- gramme0
"bill maher doesn't ask questions, he just offends people who aren't like him. it's not funny and it's not clever."
– Spot on.
Faith ALWAYS looks insane, childish and unintelligent to those who do not possess it. Mocking someone's faith, something that cannot be empirically proven, is as foolish as a blind man mocking his friend who tells him that the world is indeed full of color.
- agreed...and I'm not religious...I just think his brand of humor is in REALLY poor taste.marychain
- Yes, its tasteless and in unintelligent, it isn't humour its slurring insults and hatred.MakeBelieve
- exactly.gramme
- +1, gramme. :)PonyBoy
- That's a buncha crap. Well put. But a buncha crap.killthefish
- the point is faith shouldn't be an unapproachable topicspifflink
- you're right. faith shouldn't be unapproachable. It should to be approached by someone that's not a douche, though.Gucci
- MakeBelieve0
Wouldn't it be funny after Bill dies he discoveres that there is a God and Jesus wasn't talking nonsense and then he's like 'oh sh1t'... lol maybe its better to believe as a safety clause.
Remember the leading Atheist who found God!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6688…
- killthefish0
"Faith ALWAYS looks insane, childish and unintelligent to those who do not possess it."
Guess what? INSANITY always looks insane, childish and unintelligent to those who aren't insane. That's the point. Saying, "If you aren't that way you have no room to talk" is fine, except for the fact that there are a bunch of people of faith trying to mold the world in ways influenced by their faith. When a crazy person does things that affect other people, we don't just say, "Who cares, don't worry about him, he's just crazy. Killing people is just part of his crazy."
- gramme0
If you any of you became convinced that you had stumbled onto something that would greatly benefit the entire world, not just yourselves, then I think you might feel compelled to share it.
It's asinine to compare the sharing of one's faith with murder or insanity. Regardless of whether I am a Christian, a Jew, a Hindu or a Muslim, if I share my faith in a way that is action first, talk second; if it is creating relationships and building trust so that people who get to know me feel that I am sharing vital information with them, rather than noxious propaganda—then I am doing no harm.
My point above was that people often dismiss ideas out of hand that don't make perfect sense to them. But since when does everything need to make sense to me in order for it to be true? We are so enamored with ourselves that we can't see the absurd vanity of each person being the creator of their own absolute truth. The ultimate irony in such a world/self-view is that you have creatures worshiping that which they believe to have created, all the while ignoring the original Creator. This is intellectually dishonest because I have yet to meet an atheist who believes they created themselves.
Because faith ultimately is outside of the realm of reason, it cannot be proven that a person's faith in something intangible is insane using logical constructs. We do know however that there are substantial parts of the human mind that operate entirely outside the bounds of logic (i.e., intuition, where belief and certain kinds of perception are also situated). So, disbelieve if you will; but none of you can declare beyond a reasonable doubt that faith is insane simply because you don't possess it. That, my friends, would be childish and unintelligent.
- ukit0
I think it's a matter of perspective. Thousands of years ago humans worshipped a whole different set of gods and believed in things that seem idiotic by today's standards. But at the time, that was considered normal. In today's world, mainstream Christianity is now considered normal, but smaller faiths like Mormonism, or, to take a more extreme example, cults like David Koresh are considered kooky and dangerous. What's the difference between all these things? There really isn't one. Mormons believe just as strongly as mainstream Christians that their own brand of (very recent) religious history re: Jospeh Smith etc. is real, and you would be hard pressed to let you prove them wrong. Perhaps the difference is that time and acceptance has given mainstream Christianity a veneer of respectability that these other belief systems don't have. Now, maybe there is a God, I'm not ruling that out, but if we are keeping an open mind, shouldn't a big part of that be to question and poke holes in all these things, and not simply accept the ideas that are presented to us as part of our culture and upbringing?
- gramme0
Yes ukit, we should most definitely question the things we are taught. I can tell you that for myself at least, I have never believed anything simply because it was what I was taught; I had to test and prove it for myself. Or, more accurately, God proved his existence to me whether I wanted it or not (and I really, really wanted to not believe in him for a very long time).
- gramme0
That being said, there's no excuse for acting like a raving asshole when questioning – something Maher doesn't even do since he really doesn't listen to people; he simply asks leading questions and edits the whole thing in a way that makes people look foolish. Such an approach is at the opposite end of an honest, open-minded inquiry.
- dude the world is full of christian assholes raving about god and jesus.erikjonsson
- Soler0
Loved the movie—of course it's insulting to those who have no answers to the un-answerable questions. He's right on when he says religious people are arrogant. They have no more brain power than anyone else, yet claim to know what happens when we die. Ridiculous.
- gramme0
I would disagree about the common acceptance of Christianity in this country – that is, of the orthodox brand at any rate. Listen to the average person's reaction to Jesus seminal statement "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but through me", and you will see responses ranging the gamut from confusion to outright vehement rejection of such a narrow statement.
- ukit0
When I say common acceptance I am getting at the idea that we tend not to question things that are very familiar to us. When you look at these small religions that pop up from time to time, they are viewed as dangerous and crazy and called "cults." Well, that must have been exactly how Christianity was viewed when it first started. And yet now, it has pretty much taken over the Western world as the dominant religion in our culture. So when we look at a cult, we say, wow, look at all these crazy things they believe in, like that some guy in the reincarnation of Jesus or that the world's about to end. And yet, the idea that a man could rise from the dead? Or that A boat containing two of every animal floated on the sea for 150 days? All of this is considered perfectly normal because it's been around us for so long. Even by people who aren't religious, it's considered harmless that people believe things that, presented on their own, might be considered completely delusional. Not trying to be insulting, just giving the atheist or agnostic's perspective on it!;)
- gramme0
Soler, I think you and Maher are missing a key point regarding faith: It is not a matter of brain power. It has nothing to do with intelligence. It is a matter of revelation. The playing field is completely level in that regard. There are people of faith who are stunningly brilliant, and people of faith who are complete numbskulls.
I will agree that many people of faith are arrogant, because some of them actually believe they are better than non-believers. But they have missed the point. All have sinned. All have fallen short. No one is special, and no one is deserving of special treatment. That's the cool thing about grace, it's not a merit award.
Finally, do not confuse skepticism with intellect or humility. Lacking belief in the intanglible doesn't make anyone smart or humble, anymore than belief in the intangible makes someone stupid or arrogant.
- JG_LB0
out on DVD now. go buy this shit and give a big fuck you to the academy
