(crit) Refreshing Honesty?
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- soynutz70
kinda agree with your GF, you should keep more... diplomatic?
- mikotondria30
haha, sorry - I mean, if you don't like how somethings gone down, but it wasnt in your control, then just forget about it and take the money. The client was happy, you got paid to do something that ultimately was far better than digging a hole in the road or packing cakes in a factory, and you can just walk out at the end of the day and get on with life until tomorrow. Don't invest any emotional energy into it if it's not your design company or band..easy, bro
- +1mia_free
- Ah okay, gotcha. It is my studio. Reality is that I have to show the commercial stuff because clients like it...SkyPoo
- .. its not like the work is 'bad' per se, its just that I woud have done differently if it was in my control.SkyPoo
- thats something you get into if the client asks you specificssoynutz7
- kelpie0
"The original text I proposed isn't actually as negative as it sounds but to explain why I'd have to go into loads of detail about the details of the commission. The point is though: if it sounds negative to anyone reading it who isn't aware of the details of the commission then that would be bad."
heh... mate if there is any way at all that the original text could sound anything but seriously negative I'd be very surprised. Its in the language and choice of words, and the details you choose to point out. it really screams of bitterness, if that's accidental and inaccurate and its just how its coming across due to some circumstance then I'd check the hell out of any of the stuff you're putting up in case its unduly suffering the same fate :-/
- kelpie0
*flogs dead horse
- SkyPoo0
Canuck... a crit on my description of the project, not the artwork.
Soynutz.. thanks for your repsonse.
- whur ezz artwerks?7point34
- also anything that could be construed as negative should be striked from the description. you want to highlight the positive, ya know?soynutz7
- Josh, its not about the work its about the project description text... is it too harsh? or refreshingly honest?SkyPoo
- i was just curious. wondering if my opnion might change after seeing what your describing7point34
- Ah, I see. Probably in favour of what I wrote... its pretty shit!SkyPoo
- chossy0
There should be a wee red flag you can put next to a thread which indicates that the original question has been answered and if you go back into the thread then you are a total a55 lvr. Except for me I can come and go as I please :D and I do love a55
- Llyod0
your website sucks
- moth0
The dormant art director in you should be more diplomatic.
Cunt.
- canuck0
Sorry I only skimmed.
- mikotondria30
I kinda feel what you mean, though - the one phrase: "Logo designed by band member" tells it all.
Comiserations, mate - tell the band to imagine getting booked to play a gig, only to turn up and have to lip-sync cover versions of songs YOU'VE written..
- doesnotexist0
you're the illustrator, not the art director, you said so yourself. shut the fuck up and do the work!
- hahaha, thanks for replying. The answer doesn't fit the question in any way, but I'll keep it on file for something else.SkyPoo
- excellent.doesnotexist
- actually, I reckon this answer completely and perfectly fits the question mate.kelpie
- SkyPoo0
Kelps, I do have a habit of being a bit too blunt in describing projects which is why I checked it out before posting it up. The point on this job was that there was no art director, it was a low priority job for the label and on a very small budget. I heard the music and thought they sounded really good, then when I met the bloke I was surprised by his idea to create a cartoon band and to use a very familiar animation style... I told him as well because he asked and I believe in being honest - so the context is that I was merely developing an illustration style that could sit as a backdrop to a cartoon band. At the end fo the day my project description was intended (intended but failing!) to put it into that context: that I created the illustrations, but I didn't create the marketing concept or identity.
But badly written, I know that, and I haven't used the text.
- SkyPoo0
Okay, Soynutz understood what I was asking and has provided a response I can work with. Absolutely nobody else has any idea what I'm talking about so I'll just let this thread fill up with people saying "Where's the work?" and "Just tell them you don't wan't the job" and many other bizarre repsonses that are utterly utterly unrelated to the question I tried to ask ahahahaha, roffle roffle lambo etc.
Thanks Soynutz!!!
- scarabin_net0
none of that text is necessary
if i were a potential client reading that on your site i would expect to have to deal with negativity while working with you
- mikotondria30
OH!... you want us to tell you if you should put that text on your OWN website ??
Hell no, it makes you sound like a pissy little bitch.
Good god.- AH! THATS What I'm looking for HAHAHAHA... thanks!!!!SkyPoo
- mikotondria30
OH!, you want us to tell you if you should put that project description on your OWN website ??
Hell no, mate - it makes you sound like a pissy bitch and noone will work with you.
Sorry, we mostly misunderstood.
Never ever put anything like that on a publicly available site.
:D
Clear enough ?- I double posted, but embellished the second one.
Incompetent little prick I am, sometimes.mikotondria3 - erm, yeah, I got it from the post above... my thanks was genuine by the way.SkyPoo
- AH! DISREGARD MY LAST NOTE I JUST READ YOUR FIRST ONE. GOD THIS IS MADSkyPoo
- I double posted, but embellished the second one.
- 7point340
i'd say it might be too honest.
if you dislike a piece you've done, why put in online? just to garner admiration and possibly more revenue because it was published? but if people who like that type of artwork see that and then read the tag line and realize that you have very little connection to the work and were more or less going through the motions only doing it for a paycheck may be taken aback and even reconsider getting you to do it. does it save you trouble of doing more work like this? possibly, but then why showcase it at all? certainly in a personal portflio you can say whatever you want, but an online professional resumé? - doesn't seem to work. what kind of direction do you want your business to take?
maybe i'm over thinking. not at all trying to seem cuntish.
still curious to see the work.
- JerseyRaindog0
Maybe you should just put something like:
"My job was to create the world of Sugarush and to provide them with various scenes on a journey around the town where Sugarush have their magical factory."
instead.
- digdre0
just do ya thing