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- ukit0
Let's look at who is not running so far:
Palin, Huckabee, Trump, Christie, Daniels, Ryan, Marco Rubio
Compared to Romney, Cain, Perry, Santorum, Bachmann
The group of people "not running" makes a more interesting group of candidates than the ones who are
- ukit0
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/poli…
Also Marco Rubio says he will not be VP
So it will be Romney and some other boring old white guy
- Maybe he'll pick Bachman as his VP .. fingers crossedRamanisky2
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Black rips GOP.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video…
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Ron Paul isnt dumb enough to be considered in the running for this gig? Guy seems to have more understanding and consistency of anyone. He has some bad media sound bytes but even those dont get the publicity of these others. What the hell. from a PR perspective u would think an out of context statement or one without explanation would warrant more media. Is it becuase it can be rationally explained. And like a magic trick when its explained it loses an audiences attention. Does he have to say jsut random shit to amuse people to get elected? Is a better statement one that no one expects a rationale for, and as such it makes better media by jsut getting sides to bitch and moan at each other providing news bytes and entertainment. Really public discourse has fallen to a grade school level of farting noises.
- ukit0
Ron Paul is simply not going to win over a group of people who mostly supported the Iraq War, Patriot Act and torture.
He will get his 10-15% but the idea that the rest of the Republican party is going to suddenly come around to his way of thinking is pure fantasy.
- would u agree hes a better candidate than those other guys? hell even aas far as party goes?********
- I would prefer RP even if he on GOP side.********
- He'd get my vote for sure.zarkonite
- would u agree hes a better candidate than those other guys? hell even aas far as party goes?
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Ron Paul is hated by the media.
Not exactly sure why. Maybe he is not crazy enough.
- im thinking its becuase he less entertaining like a magician that explains his trade. not enough mysticism. but i could be wrong********
- be wrong. it just doesnt seem liek he makes for popular media********
- If Ron Paul bought a new suit and a proper haircut he would jump up 5%DrBombay
- im thinking its becuase he less entertaining like a magician that explains his trade. not enough mysticism. but i could be wrong
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I should say...
Ron Paul is hated by media on both sides.
- utopian0
Ron Paul is so off is rocker that the Teabagger's
even think he is nuttier than squirl shit... Git-R-Done®- but u think teabaggers are idiots so why would u respect what they find true in what u possibly favor?********
- personally ill stay solid and say teabaggers are generally large mobs of angry idiots. wouldnt take a general consensus from them at all********
- them at all. used in favor or against. Theyre jsut an angry mob who are hypocrites in a general sense********
- but u think teabaggers are idiots so why would u respect what they find true in what u possibly favor?
- ukit0
Ron Paul may be ignored by the media....but the other side of it is that Ron Paul doesn't fit with the view of most Republicans. Therefore he not a good "representative" for the party.
Ron Paul's supporters are ultra fanatical about him and have trouble recognizing this.
- If u had to choose a good nominee on the republicans side would u choose him over the others?********
- Ignoring what side he may come off as. purely hypothetical if he was the best on one side to compete agaisnt the best on the other?********
- the best on the other. Or is it better to ignore him and promote the worst so your side wins, gambling your side doesnt lose?********
- wont lose? just seeing how u size hime up?********
- If u were to vote for the best right candidate who would u choose and why. i guess thats what im aasking.********
- I think Romney is the only Republican candidate who can winukit
- If that's what you're asking. Ron Paul would not win against Obama if he was nominated.ukit
- The closest candidate to Ron Paul was Barry Goldwater. Lost almost every state.ukit
- If u had to choose a good nominee on the republicans side would u choose him over the others?
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ukit
Naw was asking more hypothetical taking out the election. More if you had the only vote that counted and there was only the GOP guys. Who would u have to go with.
- ABO, anyone but Obama at this point. It's all about the economy. He's the scape goat********
- ABO, anyone but Obama at this point. It's all about the economy. He's the scape goat
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White House's Message To Reporters ‘Screamed At’ By Sources: Toughen Up
http://www.mediaite.com/online/j…At Wednesday’s White House daily briefing, Fox News Chief White House Correspondent Ed Henry asked Press Secretary Jay Carney to respond to a report that a White House official had “screamed and cussed at” CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson, over the unfolding Fast and Furious story. Carney said he didn’t know about that specific conversation, but elaborated in his response that, in general, “hard-bitten journalists” ought to be able to handle “tough conversations” and “an extra decibel or two in a phone conversation.”
Henry related Attkisson’s claim, which she made on Laura Ingraham‘s radio show. ”Sharyl Attkisson, a CBS News reporter, said, a few days ago that a White House official just yelled and screamed at her, she’s been reporting on this for some time, about this whole story,” Henry said.
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Libya revolutionaries burn, loot village homes
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati…Fighters from Misurata, which suffered greatly during the uprising against Moammar Kadafi, have trashed homes and stolen goods in the ex-leader's reputed birthplace.
- kirshar120
You guys may like this......
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/05/14…
Listen to the broadcast for the full interview. Besides the book plug he briefly touches on American funds currently going to Pakistan and the mindsets of former jihadists he's interviewed.......
Take it as you will.......
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I won't miss that retarded Hank Williams Jr. song at all.
- DrBombay0
What is the general consensus on this bill in congress to punish China for currency manipulation?
- Not sure what to make of it. World currency above my pay grade. And dont think punishment would be a good idea********
- idea. How would it be enforced and what would the effects be. Probably bad. Plus dont we do our own manipulations********
- GOOD!********
- Deathboy, go read about it. I'm not your tutor.DrBombay
- haha. its my consensus that its futile and useless. but good to know youre not tutoring********
- Not sure what to make of it. World currency above my pay grade. And dont think punishment would be a good idea
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FACT CHECK: Obama claims miss some evidence
http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6776/…WASHINGTON (AP) - Are President Barack Obama's ideas for job creation really bipartisan as he claims? Not when the means for paying for them are put in the equation.
The president dodged various facts and and left some evidence in the dust in his latest challenge to Republicans to get behind his jobs program or offer a real alternative.
A look at some of the claims in his fast-paced news conference and how they compare with the facts:
OBAMA: "If it turns out that there are Republicans who are opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies and the American people, why they're opposed, and what would they do."
THE FACTS: While Republicans might not be campaigning on their opposition to Obama's plan, they've hardly kept their objections a secret.
In a memorandum to House Republicans Sept. 16, House Speaker John Boehner and members of the GOP leadership said they could find common ground with Obama on the extension of certain business tax breaks, waiving a payment withholding provision for federal contractors, incentives for hiring veterans, and job training measures in connection with unemployment insurance.
They objected to new spending on public works programs, suggesting instead that Congress and the president work out those priorities in a highway spending bill. And they raised concerns about Obama's payroll tax cuts for workers and small businesses, arguing that the benefits of a one-year tax cut would be short-lived. The memo also pointed out that reducing payroll taxes, which pay for Social Security, temporarily forces Social Security to tap the government's general fund. And it opposed additional spending to prevent layoffs of teachers, police officers and other public workers.
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OBAMA: "Every idea that we've put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike."
THE FACTS: Obama proposes to pay for his jobs bill by raising taxes, something traditionally opposed by Republicans and, in the form Obama proposed it, even some Democrats. Senate Democrats were so allergic to Obama's approach, which relied largely on limiting deductions that can be taken by individuals making over $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000, that they're eliminating it and replacing it with a new tax on millionaires.
In claiming bipartisan support for the components of his proposal, the president appears to be referring just to what the plan would do, not how it's paid for, but that's a crucial distinction he doesn't make.
Some of tax-cutting proposals offered by Obama have received significant Republican support in the past. But some of the new spending he proposes has received only nominal Republican backing. Evidence of bipartisanship provided by the White House includes legislation last year that provided $10 billion to prevent teacher layoffs. It won the support of only two Republican senators - Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both of Maine and among the most moderate Republicans in Congress. Another example cited by the White House was his proposal last year to offer tax breaks to businesses that hire new workers - it passed the House 217-201 with six Republican votes.
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OBAMA: "The answer we're getting right now is: Well, we're going to roll back all these Obama regulations... Does anybody really think that that is going to create jobs right now and meet the challenges of a global economy?"
THE FACTS: Well, yes, some think it will. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce last month submitted a jobs proposal to Obama that included a call to ease regulations on businesses. It specifically called for streamlining environmental reviews on major construction projects and to delay the issuance of some potentially burdensome regulations until the economy and employment have improved. In the letter, Chamber President Thomas Donohue also called on Congress to pass legislation that would require congressional approval of major regulations. The chamber did not indicate how many jobs such regulatory changes could create, but it said: "Immediate regulatory relief is required in order to begin moving $1 trillion-$2 trillion in accumulated private capital off of the sidelines and into business expansion."
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OBAMA: "We can either keep taxes exactly as they are for millionaires and billionaires, with loopholes that lead them to have lower tax rates, in some cases, than plumbers and teachers, or we can put teachers and construction workers and veterans back on the job."
THE FACTS: True, "in some cases" wealthy people can exploit loopholes to make their tax rate lower than for people of middle or low income. In recent rhetoric, Obama had suggested it was commonplace for rich people to pay lower rates than others, a claim not supported by IRS statistics. But on Thursday, Obama accurately stated that it only happens sometimes.
In 2009, 1,470 households filed tax returns with incomes above $1 million yet paid no federal income tax, according to the IRS. Yet that was less than 1 percent of returns with incomes above $1 million. On average, taxpayers who made $1 million or more paid 24.4 percent of their income in federal income taxes; those making $100,000 to $125,000 paid 9.9 percent; those making $50,000 to $60,000 paid 6.3 percent. The White House argues that when payroll taxes - paid only on the first $106,800 of wages - are factored in, more middle class workers wind up with a higher tax rate than millionaires.
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OBAMA: "China has been very aggressive in gaming the trading system to its advantage and to the disadvantage of other countries, particularly the United States. .... And currency manipulation is one example of it, or at least intervening in the currency markets in ways that have led their currency to be valued lower than the market would normally dictate. And that makes their exports cheaper and that makes our exports to them more expensive."
THE FACTS: While Obama complained about China's efforts to keeps its currency undervalued to gain trade advantages, his administration has repeatedly refused to brand China as a currency manipulator in a report that the Treasury Department is required to send to Congress twice a year.
Such a designation would trigger negotiations between the two countries and could ultimately lead to U.S. trade sanctions against China.
The administration has been reluctant to brand China a currency manipulator, as have past administrations, because the United States depends on China to buy U.S. Treasury securities to help finance America's budget deficits. China owns $1.17 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities, making it the largest foreign holder of Treasury debt.
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Critics balk at provision in Obama's job creation bill aimed at preventing discrimination
http://www.job.com/career-advice…President Obama has been traveling across the nation over the past few weeks as he works to drudge up support for his proposed job creation bill. The president has compelled voters to urge their elected leaders to pass the $450 billion package, but he faces a deeply divided House of Representatives, as even Democrats have warned the president they would not pass it in its entirety.
- i_monk0
Fuck you Hudak! Fuck you McGuinty!
