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- Ramanisky20
^ Bachman is full on tardtastic
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i found this pretty entertaining and educational
- not news station that support partisian bias. they jsut support incentives of what popular to there demos.********
- playing into partisan bias only is an incentive more media outlets to keep doing it. yes call fox a right network well theyll get the right views. brand management.********
- get the right views. nice foothold with brand management.********
- point is leberal view points to focus on issues and not the gneralizations that build the brands u hate********
- deathboy replies to his own posts...alot74LEO
- Learn grammar, spelling and the ability to convey a thought. Is English your tenth language?DrBombay
- I'd love to disagree with Deathboy, but I can't follow what he is trying to say...DrBombay
- i do post a lot to myself. seems right to me. not my blog and i shouldnt push a thread and leave room for discussion if there is any.********
- there is some. and my spelling and grammer isnt perfect, but i dont think spending time on perfect grammar and spellign would change outcomes********
- would change outcomes. on a positive note it does provide an easy scape goat and lets me know who is serious********
- not news station that support partisian bias. they jsut support incentives of what popular to there demos.
- utopian0
- to a point that theyre arent sacrifical lambs. yes doesnt mean 90+% an acceptable rate without over doign gov spending********
- spending. the rich arent suppsoe to finance politicians pandering. cutback spending rationally than evaulate********
- its a matter of prinicple. are the rich to blame for under financing of entitlements or the opposite********
- however with the term rich i dont mean the corporatism which is corps+gov. however less gov less that kinf of evil********
- so is it a matter of gov overstepping liberty and giving free handouts as a problem of finance or is it the rich not giving away wealth?********
- giving away their wealth , well earned or not?********
- he's a hypocrite********
- to a point that theyre arent sacrifical lambs. yes doesnt mean 90+% an acceptable rate without over doign gov spending
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this makes me think about peoples ability to evaulate the real question. the principles being ignored. rather they prefer to determine them on their own emotionally and irrationally and ignoring all responsibility and choices of other people. its a very right wing view and similiar if u look at abortion and gay beliefs among the right. u mdont liek it for your own view and ignore prinicples
- kinda like cigarettes putting your death sentence on the side of the box. they washed their hands now74LEO
- BRNK0
I understand your point, deathboy, and you're right...as is Friedman. The thing is, a principled stance is only good as long as you stand by it. If you want to be the guy that says human lives aren't worth $13 a car, that's fine, you'll be right and win arguments; just know that everyone will be calling you the dick who doesn't value human life.
I think taking a principled stance often puts one in a position where empathy isn't really an option; that video is a perfect example. I'm sure Friedman doesn't really feel that a human life isn't worth $13, yet there he is arguing just that out of principle. I think we need principles to guide ethics and ethics to guide society. We need wiggle room as a society.
- true. and i prefer peoplr deciding their own values of there own life. i cant decide for anyone else but me.********
- true. and i prefer peoplr deciding their own values of there own life. i cant decide for anyone else but me.
- TheBlueOne0
In response to deathboy, a distinction should be made to the "wealthy" and those high incomes. We do not tax the wealthy, we tax high-earners– much different. Think about the distinction and the ramifications. Think paris Hilton (or Warren Buffet or the Koch Bros, if you want to play Teams) versus a 32 yr-old brain surgeon just out of fellowship with $250K in student loans. Who gets punished in the current system?
- didn't someone mention that Buffet has been lobbying for the rich to achieve tax breaks for years..>!?!********
- He's a DINO. http://en.wikipedia.… like Arny is a RINO********
- wrong again, popfodders -
http://www.telegraph…Fax_Benson - that's of late dude, he's singing a different tune than he used to be********
- and I do believe it was a Democrat that posted that as well Faxie********
- Well there is sales taxes too, property taxes and that stuff. i dont know real unadjusted numebrs who gets screwed more as a total percentage********
- mroe as a total percentage... i just found that tax reform and progressive rates cant be summed up in a vote liek that.********
- i should have let the gernelization go, but had a coupel beers and it fired me up********
- didn't someone mention that Buffet has been lobbying for the rich to achieve tax breaks for years..>!?!
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Rick Perry ‘Big Black Cloud’ Quote Edited Out Of Context By MSNBC And ABC News
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-…Schultz regrets Perry remark about 'big black cloud'
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on…NBC NEWS’ SHARPTON REPEATS ‘BLACK CLOUD’ DECEPTION
http://www.breitbart.tv/nbc-news…- "GOD, GUNS, AND
YOUNG BOYS"
- GOPutopian - you've proved my point entirely, thanks.********
- "GOD, GUNS, AND
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What's truly amazing about you lot of hypocrites is the fact that you don't practice what you fucking preach. Your manifesto is all about acceptance and yet, all I see is pictures of yahoos and white bread jackasses, whom you deem represent the entire Conservative base (@utopian and @ukit).
Well folks, take a look around you, is your life better with this clown in power? Nope, in fact, it's probably worse. I know that my situation is bad (part-time shitty job and stock portfolio in the shitter).
I'll admit that the Republican controlled Congress aren't helping matters, but if a President and Congress fail to find some middle ground to walk on, we're fucking heading towards a downward spiral. Don't care who's in power.
- holy hell, you actually said something that rings of authenticity. Keep it up!monkeyshine
- ^>********
- repubs control the house, not congress asshole.BonSeff
- LOL x 10 @ Bonseff.severian
- you get the fucking picture.. House versus Senate, blah********
- you go popfodder! your on to something here. search the web for political triteness and post it again here.74LEO
- BusterBoy0
^^ well done pf...at least that was an attempt at a somewhat reasonable post. See, it's not that difficult to argue a point and resist the temptation to post shitty links and pics. Keep it up!
- well, maybe I'm overstating the obvious there with that last paragraph********
- well, maybe I'm overstating the obvious there with that last paragraph
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@ukit.
Rough population estimate of Muslims in Texas. Probably a lot more than 3, like you've estimated.
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbo…That was in 1990, but I'm sure it's grown since.
- locustsloth0
But then doesn't the alleged favorable view of Perry by Texas Muslims go against the conservative narrative that Muslims are uncompromising in their acceptance of other faiths and that they want to turn the US into a Muslim nation? Surely Perry's pray-in would have raised the ire of the Muslims i hear pundits talk about on Fox et al
- sorry, maybe i should have said 'ultra-conservative narrative'locustsloth
- well yes, that's absolutely it, I don't think he's your average player on that level. I guess that's my point, a page back.********
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Donald Trump barking at Obama's vacations
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald…
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, everyday is a vacation for ol' Donnie Boy- how the fuck is this clown relevant to the conversation?BonSeff
- because he made a crack at Obummer that's how dickweed********
- mg330
Great article:
Crashing the Tea Party
By DAVID E. CAMPBELL and ROBERT D. PUTNAM
Published: August 16, 2011GIVEN how much sway the Tea Party has among Republicans in Congress and those seeking the Republican presidential nomination, one might think the Tea Party is redefining mainstream American politics.
But in fact the Tea Party is increasingly swimming against the tide of public opinion: among most Americans, even before the furor over the debt limit, its brand was becoming toxic. To embrace the Tea Party carries great political risk for Republicans, but perhaps not for the reason you might think.
Polls show that disapproval of the Tea Party is climbing. In April 2010, a New York Times/CBS News survey found that 18 percent of Americans had an unfavorable opinion of it, 21 percent had a favorable opinion and 46 percent had not heard enough. Now, 14 months later, Tea Party supporters have slipped to 20 percent, while their opponents have more than doubled, to 40 percent.
Of course, politicians of all stripes are not faring well among the public these days. But in data we have recently collected, the Tea Party ranks lower than any of the 23 other groups we asked about — lower than both Republicans and Democrats. It is even less popular than much maligned groups like “atheists” and “Muslims.” Interestingly, one group that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right.
The strange thing is that over the last five years, Americans have moved in an economically conservative direction: they are more likely to favor smaller government, to oppose redistribution of income and to favor private charities over government to aid the poor. While none of these opinions are held by a majority of Americans, the trends would seem to favor the Tea Party. So why are its negatives so high? To find out, we need to examine what kinds of people actually support it.
Beginning in 2006 we interviewed a representative sample of 3,000 Americans as part of our continuing research into national political attitudes, and we returned to interview many of the same people again this summer. As a result, we can look at what people told us, long before there was a Tea Party, to predict who would become a Tea Party supporter five years later. We can also account for multiple influences simultaneously — isolating the impact of one factor while holding others constant.
Our analysis casts doubt on the Tea Party’s “origin story.” Early on, Tea Partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes. Actually, the Tea Party’s supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the Tea Party was born, and were more likely than others to have contacted government officials. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party support today.
What’s more, contrary to some accounts, the Tea Party is not a creature of the Great Recession. Many Americans have suffered in the last four years, but they are no more likely than anyone else to support the Tea Party. And while the public image of the Tea Party focuses on a desire to shrink government, concern over big government is hardly the only or even the most important predictor of Tea Party support among voters.
So what do Tea Partiers have in common? They are overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do.
More important, they were disproportionately social conservatives in 2006 — opposing abortion, for example — and still are today. Next to being a Republican, the strongest predictor of being a Tea Party supporter today was a desire, back in 2006, to see religion play a prominent role in politics. And Tea Partiers continue to hold these views: they seek “deeply religious” elected officials, approve of religious leaders’ engaging in politics and want religion brought into political debates. The Tea Party’s generals may say their overriding concern is a smaller government, but not their rank and file, who are more concerned about putting God in government.
This inclination among the Tea Party faithful to mix religion and politics explains their support for Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas. Their appeal to Tea Partiers lies less in what they say about the budget or taxes, and more in their overt use of religious language and imagery, including Mrs. Bachmann’s lengthy prayers at campaign stops and Mr. Perry’s prayer rally in Houston.
Yet it is precisely this infusion of religion into politics that most Americans increasingly oppose. While over the last five years Americans have become slightly more conservative economically, they have swung even further in opposition to mingling religion and politics. It thus makes sense that the Tea Party ranks alongside the Christian Right in unpopularity.
On everything but the size of government, Tea Party supporters are increasingly out of step with most Americans, even many Republicans. Indeed, at the opposite end of the ideological spectrum, today’s Tea Party parallels the anti-Vietnam War movement which rallied behind George S. McGovern in 1972. The McGovernite activists brought energy, but also stridency, to the Democratic Party — repelling moderate voters and damaging the Democratic brand for a generation. By embracing the Tea Party, Republicans risk repeating history.
David E. Campbell, an associate professor of political science at Notre Dame, and Robert D. Putnam, a professor of public policy at Harvard, are the authors of “American Grace: How Religion Divides and Unites Us.”
- according to whom, you? It's an opinion and it's from the NY Times, go fucking figure? //not biased or anything********
- the problem for both sides, well more so for the Dems, they are going to shape politics for a long time to come, huh?********
- and fox, msnbc, jon stewart rachel maddow are not. com on pop i thought you were smarten than that74LEO
- biased ... you fucking tool of fox propoganda .. go suck Murdochs dick some more.Ramanisky2
- ok you got me there********
- according to whom, you? It's an opinion and it's from the NY Times, go fucking figure? //not biased or anything
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Obama bids to kick start American job creation... as he tours the country in $1.1m 'Darth Vader' bus - made in Canada
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/…This clown just keeps cracking me up with his antics.
- i'm sure he picked it out himselflocustsloth
- He probably should've realized it wasn't made in the USA. Untimely, especially in Union-esque IA********
- You're an idiot and a jackass. As if ANY president would travel in anything less.mg33
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CROMBEZ: Declining fortunes of the left
Continent’s liberal movement bereft of ideas and leaders
http://www.washingtontimes.com/n…Throughout Europe, the left is in dire straits, being trounced in national elections and thrown out of office. Just five of the European Union’s 27 member states have governments led by the left, and the left appears set to lose power in Spain, the only large member state that has such a government.
In 2007, the French Socialists lost their third straight presidential election. In 2009, the German Social Democrats had their worst election defeat since the establishment of the federal republic. Last year, the British Labor Party suffered its largest loss in nearly 80 years. In Italy, the left is too divided and leaderless to put even an embattled and scandal-ridden Silvio Berlusconi in danger. The Polish Socialists failed to garner more than 13 percent of the vote in the most recent parliamentary and presidential elections, and opinion polls for this fall's parliamentary elections predict they will gain little more.
- Bullshit, the European right is way left of the american spectrum. Such a stupid article.zarkonite
- So the NYTimes is a bias paper, but the Wash Times isn't? Got it.TheBlueOne
- Get a job.TheBlueOne
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Health coverage, rates rise in Massachusetts
Romney law fails to bend cost curve
http://www.washingtontimes.com/n…- doesn't surprise me that Perry is pounding this guy, it might be early, but I never thought Romney was a winner********
- doesn't surprise me that Perry is pounding this guy, it might be early, but I never thought Romney was a winner
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Pentagon: Army Improperly Tested Body Armor Plates
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/…Your tax dollars at work.
- so lets reduce the defense program by 50% what do you think? remember blackwater?74LEO
- Did you go to public high school? Tax dollars at work.TheBlueOne
- Public high schools are fucking horrendous, wtf you smoking, son?********
- Ramanisky20
p-fodds .... hahaha
- mg330
I love that right wing fools are criticizing the bus Obama is traveling in, as if it's somehow absurd to protect the president as best as the Secret Service can. That's priceless. Drudge and all those other people would NEVER criticize a Republican president if they were using the same vehicle. And, fact is, nobody really cares where it was made, they're just mad at anything this president does.
- Correct. To them, everything is up for scrutinization. Though it was much the same with Bush and liberalslocustsloth
