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- Ramanisky20
@74Leo
- got it thanks. the more they argue with one another the better!74LEO
- uhmmm 74LEO that's protocol WTF!?********
- BonSeff0
@popfodders
- GFY moron, you assume so much, but understand so very little, peabrain********
- GFY moron, you assume so much, but understand so very little, peabrain
- fooler0
August 12, 2011
GOP Lawmaker Caught Setting Up Gay Rendezvous
Emails shared with the Indianapolis Star suggest that Indiana state Rep. Phillip Hinkle (R) -- responding to a local posting on Craigslist -- offered a young man $80 plus tip to spend time with him Saturday night at a local hotel.Said one email: "Cannot be a long time sugar daddy, but can for tonight. Would you be interested in keeping me company for a while tonight?"
The emails, sent from Hinkle's publicly listed personal address, ask the young man for "a couple hours of your time tonight" and offer him cash up front, with a tip of up to $50 or $60 "for a really good time."
According to the Evansville Courier & Press, Hinkle voted earlier this year for a constitutional gay marriage ban and his official bio says he's married with two children.
- haha ....offered him a "tip" - bet he'd have given him the whole thing.bulletfactory
- I doubt he is that stupid, had to be a hack, I mean FFS********
- TheBlueOne0
"t's a great way to look at things, although it's even worse than the analogy suggests"
-popfoddersNo it's fucking stupid. And the guy who wrote it shouldn't be a financial advisor if he doesn't understand the difference between a person on a fixed income and a sovereign nation that controls it's own currency which happens to be the medium the rest of the world trades in aka the global reserve currency.
The Jones family cannot print it's own money, and the rest of the town they live in doesn't do trade in Jones Family Bucks.
So know the little "The US should balance it;s budget just like a family" thing is a little thing trotted out so morons like you will repeat it because it makes sense to your lizard brain.
I won't bother to explain it because a) you won't fucking understand it b) you won't care c) you'll just write "libtard" and "obummer" and then post some pic of a black person doing something vaguely silly
- TheBlueOne0
Basically how I feel.
http://www.ginandtacos.com/2011/…
"Look. It's pretty clear at this point that Obama, sadly enough, is probably the most liberal candidate America could tolerate enough to elect at this point in its political evolution. Our choices are limited to the psychotic teabagger and the fake progressive "bipartisan" who will do whatever the psychotic teabagger would have done minus one or two of the craziest bits. Face it: we are going to pursue a protect-the-Job-Producers, tax cutting, government dismantling, Hayek-worshipping, quasi-supply side economic policy until it brings us to our utter ruin. There will be no change in direction until we hit bottom, until the economy and state of the nation literally cannot get any worse. This is no different than the Gilded Age, and it will end the same way. There is no point at which common sense or the Democratic Party or the American public or the media are going to turn back from the post-1980 Beltway elite consensus politics of Government is the Problem, free market worship, and tax cuts piled upon tax cuts. This is it. If the most liberal candidate who could plausibly be elected is an Eisenhower Republican trying to outflank the GOP on austerity, things aren't going to improve until we are indisputably and comprehensively screwed.
People like Harry Reid, Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democratic "leadership" are serving no purpose except to make the process of decline as long, laborious, and excruciating as possible. We are putting off the inevitable. The worse the news gets and the deeper the depression (psychologically and economically) we are suffering becomes, the more I wish we could fast forward to the end. Let's just get this the hell over with. Tea Party 2012. Let's go ahead and elect Michelle Bachmann. Crown Paul Ryan. Get Scott Walker to Washington as quickly as possible. Put two or three more Scalia clones on the Supreme Court. Make Ron Paul the Fed chairman. Bring on the floods and the plagues of locusts. Let the Earth open up and swallow our country whole.
We're in a tailspin and the only thing our political system is capable of doing is to take the failed ideas of the past and do them again, only harder. If ten rounds of tax cuts didn't work, try ten more (but larger). If a war didn't help, start a couple more. If the Job Creators aren't creating jobs, cater to more of their whims. If slashing the safety net didn't help, slash it twice as much. There is no FDR or third party or Good Democrats or Sane Republicans coming to save us. If hitting bottom is our destiny, grease up the rails and let's get it over with. From rock bottom there might be some glimmer of hope that things could improve, which seems preferable to our current dilemma of sitting around watching Rome burn and waiting for things to get worse."
- fucking bitter pillBonSeff
- think downhill since fdr started talking about second bill of rights. confused people about what constitutes a right.********
- actually a lot of the programs he helped create have set us up where we are. FDR was slow acting poison********
- and looks like a lot of problems are inherent of fiat type currecnies********
- and look at you, being the hypocrite that you are, diving into someone else's comments and spewing that rubbish********
- ukit0
Roubini Warns of Global Recession Risk
http://online.wsj.com/video/roub…
Interesting comments from a mainstream economist
"In the last two or three years, we've actually had a worsening because we've had a massive redistribution of income from labor to capital, from wages to profits, and the inequality of income has increased and the marginal propensity to spend of a household is greater than the marginal propensity of a firm because they have a greater propensity to save, that is firms compared to households. So the redistribution of income and wealth makes the problem of inadequate aggregate demand even worse.
Karl Marx had it right. At some point, Capitalism can destroy itself. You cannot keep on shifting income from labor to Capital without having an excess capacity and a lack of aggregate demand."
- the whole capitalism blame game is DOA. For example explain what capitalism u refer to. You likely cant since its so bound by regulatory law and politics********
- bound by regulatory law and politics. True capitalism by ideal is liek nature. It creates balance in an environment********
- Of course if care to enlighten me with how you define capitalism it may shed light on your views********
- And the dangers of Marx logic is it offers great incentives for those without at the cost of everything long term. should beware it********
- be cautious of it generally speakign unless u want short term gaisn at cost of future generations. if so say so********
- That quote makes perfectly clear what he is talking about********
- that quote didnt mention capitalism. Actually doesnt say too much.********
- every second word is capitalism in that quotedrgs
- depends on how u see it. but must be explained. explaining why one sees thign the way they do is a key to communication********
- communication. if ukit sees any wealth distribution as capitalism or balnce of aggregate demand his logic is falwed********
- flawed. a large generalization which is likely to promote political talking points.********
- Basically it is saying that as income inequality increases the economy goes to shit because overall demand dries up.ukit
- up. Not sure what part of that is so hard to understand.ukit
- I didnt like your wording mud slinging capitalism as the culprit of perverse wealth disparity********
- Disparity is natural, but any large increase these days is likely only made possible by large gov.********
- Just look at the bailout and who it is authorizing taxpayer dolalrs to go to bailouts or tax breaks. its gov.********
- disparity is natural. seems as rich get richer everyday peoples purchasing power moves up. both classes move up but disparity increases********
- but mroe disparity is there. and lately it seems mroe perverse but to me its all becuase of peopel trying to plan econ in gov.********
- gov. and also i think disparity gap can highly be realted to education. If peopel are smarter less disparity. if pops grow with large masses of idiots larger disparity********
- grow with mroe idiots larger disparity. Causes can be related to immigration, and slums living on entitlements********
- nothing personal. i just dont liek the blatant capitalsim excuse. less free markets mean less freedom and likely lower class gets fucked********
- classes get fucked. and since im in the lower class i feel the need to defend the econ system that likely prevents me being sacrificed********
- from being scrificed to even lower classes by higher classes********
- the whole capitalism blame game is DOA. For example explain what capitalism u refer to. You likely cant since its so bound by regulatory law and politics
- drgs0
The great strength of democracy (theoretically because democracy died while still an embryo) lies in the fact that the American people with all regret need to realize that they are human cattle
To not let them understand this is a crime with no expiration date, and which must be punishable by law.
Because as long as all Americans are told that they are the greatest nation on earth, with liberty and justice for all, they will continue to shiver their lower lips, clap with eyelashes and bear all the abuse.
Only guilt and shame can coerce a society to squeeze the animal out of itself, drop by drop, and become human. Patriotism is quite the opposite direction. Only German medical stigmas can make a pile of poo into a strawberry pie.
- democracy and mob rule is human cattle for elected officials. republic is different********
- its important to know differences of republic and democracy. no one wants a democracy. except for those not understanding it********
- not understanifn it and punch drunk on idea they have power over others through vote********
- and guilt and shame is not toll for success. unless your the king/leader. IIts used to enslave people. a primary tool in religion
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- religion. hence man is born guilty and sinful and must repent and pay alms for such guilt********
- and u speaking of coercion as a good thing says enough about how value things********
- democracy and mob rule is human cattle for elected officials. republic is different
- BusterBoy0
What depths I've slumped to...posting photos in the Politics thread...but I couldn't help myself.
- drgs0
2 deathboy, to bury the free market once and for all:
Joseph Stiglitz, a famous economist and a nobel prize winner, studied your burning question, why is it that the "free market" in some countries works more or less ok, while in other countries does not regulate anything at all.
He has proven mathematically, that the free market cannot regulate anything if players have unequal information, ie when some know more than others. Its called information asymmetry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inf…To ensure that "market economy" would work you need 100% full transparency of this very economy. For example, I work in a global corporation which specializes in cleaning and sanitizing. The company operates with list prices on certain products, but then we have international agrrements which receive refunds, rebates, billbacks etc, which are strictly confidential
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rea…And this has nothing to do with governmental regulations -- the players seek to have advantage over each other by "screening". In fact to ensure to have a truly "free" and transparent market would be by a governmental regulation, hehe
Pass it on to your classmates
- not saying its perfect. many natural states go through waves. theyre just likely less volatile. and really only econ method that will help keep people free********
- philosophy that maintains peopels freedoms and rights.********
- and im not suggesting capitalism plays equality. now way would it do that. theres gonna be sharks and remoras. equality is for death********
- equality is in death.********
- actually lookign at your links u see government controling info more transparent than companies? and lettign them control it all with regualtion?********
- control it all with regulation? experience seems to be gov is worse with transparency********
- And first link doesnt suggest a mathematical proof a free amrket cant regulate itself. More knowledge in speculation.********
- specualtion it seems. common sense that peopel think they have all info or better and such leads to a onesideness. sounds liek common sense********
- like common sense********
- not saying its perfect. many natural states go through waves. theyre just likely less volatile. and really only econ method that will help keep people free
- ********0
- Ramanisky20
Billionaire investor Warren Buffett is calling on the so-called "mega-rich" to pay more in taxes.
Buffett said Monday in a New York Times opinion piece that he would immediately raise rates on households with taxable income of more than $1 million, and he would add an additional increase for those making $10 million or more.
He also recommends that the 12 members of Congress charged with devising a deficit-cutting plan leave rates for 99.7 percent of taxpayers unchanged.
"My friends and I have been coddled long enough by a billionaire-friendly Congress," Buffett wrote. "It's time for our government to get serious about shared sacrifice."
Buffett noted that the mega-rich pay income taxes at a rate of 15 percent on most investment income but practically nothing in payroll taxes. The middle class, meanwhile, typically falls into the 15 percent and 25 percent income tax brackets and is hit with heavy payroll taxes. He said Washington legislators "feel compelled to protect us, much as if we were spotted owls or some other endangered species."
Buffett said he knows many of the mega-rich well, and most wouldn't mind paying more in taxes, especially when so many fellow citizens are suffering. He also said he has yet to see anyone shy away from investments because of tax rates on potential gains, even when rates were much higher in the mid-1970s, 1980s and 1990s.
"People invest to make money, and potential taxes have never scared them off," he said.
- locustsloth0
Some retards commenting on an anti-liberal media site made a good point. When is Buffet going to stop employing, in his own case, the tactics that shelter the mega-rich from higher taxes?
- so he's a hypocrite then? and a so-called Democrat?********
- i'd say it has to do with laws and competition.pizzafire
- so he's a hypocrite then? and a so-called Democrat?
- ********0
- ********0
Report: Pakistan Granted China Access to U.S.'s Top-Secret Bin Laden Raid Chopper
http://www.foxnews.com/world/201…
- kgvs720
"I tell you what, it was kind of hard to decide because all of them are pretty good. And I could live with whoever wins. But she voted against raising the debt ceiling and that impressed me. That’s the main reason. She voted against it, it wasn’t just talk. And I just kinda like her straight talk. I think she’d hold the line on spending for sure. Just overall I just like her."
- ********0
WALL ST, US MANUFACTURERS REPORTEDLY MULLING WAVE OF LAYOFFS
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/1…
- mg330
I can already tell I'm going to offend a bunch of my friends on Facebook back home in TX during these campaigns, because I have no problem telling people how dangerous it is to even consider a candidate who will attempt to preside with a religious agenda, which is what Perry and Bachmann would attempt to do.
I can hear it already "oh, are you anti-religion? do you not believe in God?"
If someone looks to God for strength in making good decisions, I'm fine with that. But if someone is looking to God FOR the answers, for some kind of guidance on what should be done politically in this country, uh, no... There are quite a few religious dictatorships in the world and they don't seem to be too great of a place to live.
I mean, Bachmann herself said that she would not compromise her core beliefs as president, which basically amounts to her saying that she will do what she wants, and any rational person knows that this will be affected by her extreme religious ideology.
- ABO = Anyone But Obama is their ploy, it'll probably work********
- ABO = Anyone But Obama is their ploy, it'll probably work
- GeorgesII0
I'm fuckn voting for Roosevelt,
who's with me?
